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Laser/Light recommendations for HD pistol

FL180FL180 MemberPosts: 58 Member
I have a Glock 22 that I use for HD and am thinking about adding a laser/light combo on it. I've seen the Glock factory unit (GTL22) but I'm not sure it will be bright enough, only 60 lumens. Does anyone have this unit? Is it bright enough for you to use in any HD scenario in dark/low light situations? Is there a minimum number of lumens you would recommend? Any other recommendations for a rail mounted laser/light combo?

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  • bruchibruchi Senior Member Posts: 2,581 Senior Member
    I gt a Streamlight on my bedside Glock 23, uses 2 - 123 batteries and it is quite bright! I zeroed it on the G23 at 25 yards, works great and when I use it on my Glock 17 for nocturnal IPSC matches I just swap it from one gun to the other, I hqave check this back and forth extensively and the zero at 25 yards is the same on both guns!

    I do once a week or so check the batteries on it, the 2 extra flashlights next to it and the Glock 23 has day night TRUGLO TFO sights, the flashlight laser is a nice tool but IMO the basics have to always be there.
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  • GunnerK19GunnerK19 Senior Member Posts: 1,095 Senior Member
    Welcome aboard.

    I would suggest this, IMHO...

    http://www.streamlight.com/product/product.aspx?pid=81

    It also has a "Contour Remote" available for the G22 (scroll down to accessories)

    160 lumens is pretty damn bright to a BG in your dark house at 3 am; although personally, I don't see the need for the laser. If you're in a HD scenario your iron sights plus illuminated/deer in the headlights surprised BG should be sufficient.
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  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    I don't think I would mount any lights or laser on a pistol for personal defense, I may try it on a carbine however.
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  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,877 Senior Member
    For home defense, a light makes a bit of sense.

    A Streamlight of some sort would be my choice. Good cost/benefits ratio.
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  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    My question, on a handgun, the light increases bulk and does it really help attached to the handgun ??

    I really personally don't know not having tried it out, on handguns I do try and keep it as minimal and sleek as possible.

    A carbine OTOH is a distinct possibility, it already is somewhat bulky...

    To Me it is all personal defense, I don't really have anything that does not fulfill the role of personal defense..... I don't break it down by home defense, locations vehicles etc.... I never really have to be honest.
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • bruchibruchi Senior Member Posts: 2,581 Senior Member
    This units are very light, one loaded magazine has to weight 4-5 times what one weights with batteries on, being attached to the gun has many pluses, first is that it is there, no looking for it, no chance you drop it or whatever, that unless you drop the gun.

    NO you don't have to keep it on all the time and give up your position, the switch is easy to handle even when holding the gun one handed and it gives you 2 options, to one side it "toggles" and it is only on while applying pressure, that IMO works only when behind cover to do a quick check of what lies ahead but to the other side it remains on and it is quite easy to turn off from it, you can set it up for just he light or just the laser to come on or both, like everything thinking in advance and practice makes perfect!

    Now, the main PLUS with a handgun mounted laser in a defense situation is that you can stay behind cover and expose a minimum of yourself, more so with a one handed grip and still attain a target, try doing that with a handgun in one hand and a flashlight on the other... pretty much a huge chunk of your upper body will be exposed!!!

    I have used the laser at night extensively on nocturnal IPSC matches, not the real thing but still provides good hands on feedback on the advantages of this devices. IT IS A GREAT AID, incredibly fast and accurate, AGAIN THE ADVANTAGE it gives you is HUGE and that is a good thing when facing a bad guy.

    Still in the matches I carry a regular flashlight as a backup and my competition and defense guns have night sights, as I mentioned I keep 2 flashlights next to my bed, redundancy is a must do when it comes to your safety.

    Yes it depends on batteries to work, your defense gun depends one ammo, you can be certain you got one, you can check the other as well, I might be paranoid but at least once a week I make sure the batteries are good on the laser/flashlight and while at it that the magazine is full and that there is a round in the chamber, actually if I did not have the flashlight there I probably be more lax about checking the ammo situation.

    You can critique things you never try all you want, you can also try them and even make them work for you.
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  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    "You can critique things you never try all you want, you can also try them and even make them work for you."

    I asked a question and admitted: "I don't know" Ok ?? I have however been in personal defense situations at night, dark etc... and have been successful anyway..... I still have excellent night vision....
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • mythaeusmythaeus Senior Member Posts: 831 Senior Member
    DoctorWho wrote: »
    "You can critique things you never try all you want, you can also try them and even make them work for you."

    I asked a question and admitted: "I don't know" Ok ?? I have however been in personal defense situations at night, dark etc... and have been successful anyway..... I still have excellent night vision....

    I don't think bruchi directed that response at you, Doc :tooth: .

    I think that usually this kind of discussion ends in "whatever works for you, but use it right". I think a tool is good for the intended purpose if used properly. Glock makes the GTL-21 and GTL-22 and they don't make carbines, so they are clearly intended for use on pistols. We have both the GTL-21 and GTL-22, one on each of our HD Glock 19 (which are not carried, but reside nearly permanently bedside). These are light weight, bright enough for target ID at night. They are also quick-detached, in less than 2 seconds, if that is necessary. I have ours set on light/laser combo and intend to use them as quick 1-time flash rather than continuously on (to be come a target). I like the fact that I can have my other hand free. Best of all, they don't have to be turned on if you don't want to use them.

    In any case, I also have a Streamlight TLR-2 and Sig STL-900L, both are light/laser. I like the Streamlight, which is brighter and more rugged than the Glock, but it's not as quick to detach. The Sig has like a thousand buttons that are not easy to remember/operate so I'm going to get rid of it soon.

    Al
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  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    Thank you !!!

    That was most informative !!
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • bruchibruchi Senior Member Posts: 2,581 Senior Member
    mythaeus wrote: »
    I don't think bruchi directed that response at you, Doc :tooth: .

    Thanks!
    If this post is non welcomed, I can always give you a recipe for making "tostones".
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