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One more reason for 30 round mags

CaliFFLCaliFFL Senior MemberPosts: 5,486 Senior Member
NORTH AUGUSTA — One man is dead and two are recovering after being shot by a gun store owner during a burglary of his business Thursday morning.

Stephen Bayazes Jr., 57, told officers that he and his wife were asleep in an apartment at the back of the business, Guns & Ammo Gunsmith, 522 Edgefield Road, shortly before 4 a.m. when he awoke after hearing a loud crash and the activation of a silent alarm.

Bayazes grabbed an AR-15 semiautomatic rifle and found three men loading guns into a van that had crashed through the side wall of the store.

After hearing the men yell to kill him, Bayazes shot one 30-round magazine of .223-caliber bullets before retreating to his bedroom to reload, he later told officers.






http://chronicle.augusta.com/news/crime-courts/2012-08-09/gun-shop-owner-kills-suspected-burglar-injures-two-others?v=1344521241
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Good for the gun-shop owner. :guns:
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  • mkk41mkk41 Banned Posts: 1,932 Senior Member
    I'm actually surprised that most of the comments were supportive of the owner , the RKBA , and the shooting of the perps.
  • Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 37 Member
    3 men 30 rounds ? well bad shots need 50 RND mags ! He better starts range practice untill he can hit one guy per shot or one kill per shot depending on the scenario....
    The problem too is the BACK stop , in a public place out of target bullets can mean unwanted collateral damage , so I insist that Extra capacity mag is included with the proper training in Urban shooting expertize ...
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 16,928 Senior Member
    3 men 30 rounds ? well bad shots need 50 RND mags ! He better starts range practice untill he can hit one guy per shot or one kill per shot depending on the scenario....
    The problem too is the BACK stop , in a public place out of target bullets can mean unwanted collateral damage , so I insist that Extra capacity mag is included with the proper training in Urban shooting expertize ...

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  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,557 Senior Member
    CaliFFL wrote: »
    Bayazes grabbed an AR-15 semiautomatic rifle...

    Didn't the media editor mean "Assault rifle"? :uhm:
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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 16,928 Senior Member
    3 men 30 rounds ? well bad shots need 50 RND mags ! He better starts range practice untill he can hit one guy per shot or one kill per shot depending on the scenario....

    At any rate Judge...this ain't bench rest shooting - there are many factors that can contribute to multiple rounds being fired...did you catch that this incident went down at 4 a.m....hours of darkness complicate things, not to mention the inevitable adrenaline surge, what if the BG doesn't go down with one shot? several things to consider....there is also the "anything worth shooting is worth shooting a lot" thing to consider.

    So tell me...since statistics tell us that most men are confronted by a single attacker....would you only carry one round in your defensive handgun?
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  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,557 Senior Member
    3 men 30 rounds ? well bad shots need 50 RND mags ! He better starts range practice untill he can hit one guy per shot or one kill per shot depending on the scenario....
    The problem too is the BACK stop , in a public place out of target bullets can mean unwanted collateral damage , so I insist that Extra capacity mag is included with the proper training in Urban shooting expertize ...

    Shoot under the stress of adrenaline while fighting back panic and getting stuck in the OODA loop. He did just fine. You can't armchair QB this thing.

    And given that he was likely in a majority commercial district at 4am, your backdrop is very likely just more walls.
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 16,928 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    :IPcheckplease:
    Done...
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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 16,928 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Clean?

    As far as I can tell...
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  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,557 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Clean?

    We won't know until there is an outbreak...
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  • SirGeorgeKillianSirGeorgeKillian Senior Member Posts: 5,462 Senior Member
    Or it just starts to sting when you pee...
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