Home Main Category Personal Defense

Concealed Carry of pistols

AGCAGC BannedPosts: 8 New Member
General question. Is it legal for a citizen (no criminal record of course..with a license to carry a concealed gun) in every state? How about the provinces of Canada (being that Canada is pretty much an anti-gun country)?

I'm assuming Texas would be one state where it's legal. Where else?
«13

Replies

  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    When a state recognizes another's carry permit, it's called "reciprocity", and no, it's not universal. At least a few states don't allow concealed carry at all,and others only recognize certain other states' permits. Somebody will be along soon with a link that will list a cross-reference for all the states. I can't remember it right now.

    Canada- - - - -fuggeddaboutit! Tourists can't even transport handguns in locked cases on the way to Alaska- - - - -let alone carry one on them. Long guns in transit have to be "registered" at the border, and that info is promptly turned over to US authorities by the Canadians. My parents wanted to carry a pistol-gripped 12 gauge as security for their motorhome, and the Canucks said that would be OK since it was a 12 gauge, but a .410 pistol grip shotgun would be considered a handgun because it could be fired one-handed. Bunch of lace-panty wimp bureaucrats!
    Jerry
  • mkk41mkk41 Banned Posts: 1,932 Senior Member
    You would need to research the laws of every state and jurisdiction you intend to carry in. Most states require some sort of license or permit issued by the state/county/local law enforcement to carry concealed. Some states even require qualification , registration or listing of the weapon to be carried on the license/permit.

    In some states , state law is THE final word. In some states , local county sherriffs or even local police chiefs set the laws.

    Open carry is legal in many states without any sort of permit/license.

    Some states recognize other states issued license/permits. Some do not.

    Some states will lock you up for even saying the word "gun"!
  • wddodgewddodge Senior Member Posts: 1,148 Senior Member
    Here is the easiest to use site that I've found...

    http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html

    Denny
    Participating in a gun buy back program because you think that criminals have too many guns is like having yourself castrated because you think your neighbors have too many kids.... Clint Eastwood
  • AGCAGC Banned Posts: 8 New Member
    I asked this because I'm from a very anti-gun city/country (Toronto/Canada). Where the mere mention of gun ownership would get you the evil eye..."...must be a gang member or crook" mentality. So to come across some pistol reviews on YouTube and hear people mention "conceal carry holsters"...watching gun TV shows here in LA (staying in LA temporarily)...showing how to draw concealed guns...or the "concealed holster that hangs from a bra...LOL!!...only in America!! I couldn't believe it. I assumed only law enforcement were allowed to carry concealed guns. Not civilians. Guess I was wrong (at least here in the US).

    Thanks wddodge for posting the link. Enlightening. California allows ("May allow...")?? MA??
  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    Another bit of trivia that might interest you is the similarity between the cities with the highest crime rates, compared to the ease with which their citizens can go armed for their own protection. The places with the most anti-gun restrictions also tend to be where the most violent crime happens. The criminals know there's virtually no chance of their victims mounting an effective defense. Criminals, by definition, have no respect for the law, so making concealed carry illegal does nothing to deter them from arming themselves. Ditto for declaring a school, church, or government building "gun-free-zones"- - - - - -those places might as well be called "free-fire-zones"! Since most criminals are cowards who want to stack the odds in their favor, the uncertainty about who might be armed does a lot to keep them from preying on all people, armed or not.
    Jerry
  • AGCAGC Banned Posts: 8 New Member
    Well, while Toronto is hardly crime free (gun crimes included) it's fairly safe for the most part. So that most citizens don't need to have guns in their homes let alone consider applying for "concealed carry". Which I doubt is doable.

    In LA, very high crime...fairly strict gun laws (e.g. not easy to attain firearms legally)..according to that map it sounds like concealed carry is allowed. Through, the right channels (e.g. applications, background checks...etc.). it's far from being like some other states where you could walk in and walk out with a gun (I think AZ). No wait period. Just produce the licence.

    I'm an advocate of gun ownership for sport (e.g. gun clubs, firing ranges). Home defense? Never lived in areas I thought it would be needed. Nor have my parents. Or their parents. I could always take walks late at night or even walk the dog at 1 AM if need be. Without having any concern for my safety or my dog's.
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    AGC wrote: »
    I'm an advocate of gun ownership for sport (e.g. gun clubs, firing ranges).

    Yes, the typical Brit Commonwealth model- - - - -gun ownership as a privelege, not a right. Armed citizens in America are primarily a counterbalance for a possibly oppressive government. Personal protection, hunting, and target shooting are way down the list of appropriate purposes. The 2nd. Amendment was one of the wisest decisions the writers of the Constitution made. It gives the citizens dominion over the government, not vice versa. Ownership of a firearm, whether one chooses to keep it at home, or carry it around, is an inalienable right- - - - -not subject to regulation, or discussion. People who believe otherwise are welcome to live anywhere else in the world they choose, and be subject to whatever despots they choose, as well.
    Jerry
  • AGCAGC Banned Posts: 8 New Member
    No. I DO believe in the right to own arms. Firearms. Again for sport only (e.g. hunting...which I disagree with, firing ranges, skeet shooting). But not the need to carry. Unless your job requires it (e.g. law enforcement). Asking about carrying concealed arms was just a curiosity. I'd hate to live some place where I felt I needed to walk around armed as a citizen. As I said. I've never felt the need nor have my family and friends. Thank God.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,896 Senior Member
    AGC,

    You've been here before, haven't you?
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • AGCAGC Banned Posts: 8 New Member
    Zee wrote: »
    AGC,

    You've been here before, haven't you?

    This topic? Or this forum? Your alias looks familiar Zee. :)

    Any how I'm bowing out of the "right to own" discussion right here. We have our own views. To each his own.
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 11,851 Senior Member
    AGC wrote: »
    This topic? Or this forum? Your alias looks familiar Zee. :)

    Any how I'm bowing out of the "right to own" discussion right here. We have our own views. To each his own.

    The problem is when someone with YOUR view tries to impose it on everyone else. To each his own would mean- YOU can own it for sport... I should be able to buy a crew served machine gun at the grocery store.
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,896 Senior Member
    AGC wrote: »
    This topic? Or this forum? Your alias looks familiar Zee. :)

    Any how I'm bowing out of the "right to own" discussion right here. We have our own views. To each his own.

    This topic AND forum. You were here before for the very same purpose. Same lines and arguements as before.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • AGCAGC Banned Posts: 8 New Member
    Don't think so Zee. I think you have me confused with some one else. I thought I saw your alias in another forum. Photography perhaps. Guess not. But those are my views in a nut shell.

    Guns for sport? (e.g. silhouettes, skeet, competition). Hunting? No. Conceal carry? No need (where I live and lived).

    And I don't see how my saying "to each his own" was imposing my view. What it meant was we're free to have our own views. Not to "buy a crew served machine gun...at a grocery store". Though, being as liquor is sold at US grocery stores already...

    Peace all.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,896 Senior Member
    Nope. This is the only forum that will take Carneys, so this is the only place I reside.

    The same lines you used, were used by another Canadian on this forum awhile back. Guess he got the same batch of Kool-Aid you drank.

    Either way, no worries. You got your country......and for the moment.......we have ours.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,813 Senior Member
    AGC wrote: »
    This topic? Or this forum? Your alias looks familiar Zee. :)

    Any how I'm bowing out of the "right to own" discussion right here. We have our own views. To each his own.

    We are quite accustomed to that. Folks drop in and throw a few bombs, then bail out, when challenged on their views, or put up a straw man for everyone to attack. Anti-gunners typically don't have much staying power, nor any objectivity.
  • shushshush Senior Member Posts: 6,259 Senior Member
    AGC wrote: »
    No. I DO believe in the right to own arms. Firearms. Again for sport only (e.g. hunting...which I disagree with, firing ranges, skeet shooting). But not the need to carry. Unless your job requires it (e.g. law enforcement). Asking about carrying concealed arms was just a curiosity. I'd hate to live some place where I felt I needed to walk around armed as a citizen. As I said. I've never felt the need nor have my family and friends. Thank God.
    AGC wrote: »
    Any how I'm bowing out of the "right to own" discussion right here. We have our own views. To each his own.

    What was that about?:uhm:
    Why come and tell people they are wrong and then run off.
    Just send flowers next time.




    bisley wrote: »
    We are quite accustomed to that. Folks drop in and throw a few bombs, then bail out, when challenged on their views, or put up a straw man for everyone to attack. Anti-gunners typically don't have much staying power, nor any objectivity.

    Well said!:up:
  • FlashoverFlashover Member Posts: 390 Member
    Zee wrote: »
    Nope. This is the only forum that will take Carneys, so this is the only place I reside.

    The same lines you used, were used by another Canadian on this forum awhile back. Guess he got the same batch of Kool-Aid you drank.

    Either way, no worries. You got your country......and for the moment.......we have ours.

    Just remember not all of us north of the border subscribe to the views presented by those from the liberal/socialist side of the political fence.
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 25,056 Senior Member
    I was going to welcome him aboard; but, I sensed "Peter"
    and waited for it to be confirmed.
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,813 Senior Member
    Flashover wrote: »
    Just remember not all of us north of the border subscribe to the views presented by those from the liberal/socialist side of the political fence.

    We know and appreciate that fact...especially since we are now one election away from being in the same boat.
  • WeatherbyWeatherby Senior Member Posts: 4,953 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Yep, I think so.

    Peter Peter kool aid drinker
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 11,851 Senior Member
    AGC wrote: »

    And I don't see how my saying "to each his own" was imposing my view. What it meant was we're free to have our own views. Not to "buy a crew served machine gun...at a grocery store". Though, being as liquor is sold at US grocery stores already...

    Saying "To Each his own" is actually our side of the argument. If you don't want to protect your life and the lives of the ones you love- that is your choice and cowardice. I don't force anyone to carry a gun, and I don't expect anyone to force me NOT to carry one.

    You can't be intellectually honest in saying "Guns should be for sport only", and "To Each his own." It should be "To each MY VIEW OR ELSE!" However it is funny to see the dissonance in the views of "Guns should be only for fun, but if you want to carry them to protect yourself I will sent agents of the government to screw a gun in your ear and make you stop."
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • bmlbml Senior Member Posts: 1,075 Senior Member
    Weatherby wrote: »
    Peter Peter kool aid drinker

    +1
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    Yep, chalk up another hit and run event- - - - - -When the "guns are bad" argument fails to fly, the troll crawls back under his bridge until the next time!
    Jerry
  • bhl2506bhl2506 Senior Member Posts: 1,995 Senior Member
    AGC wrote: »
    Peace all.

    Peace on you too!!
    Refusing to conform to the left wing mantra of political correctness by insisting on telling the truth does not make you a loud mouth.
  • BigDanSBigDanS Senior Member Posts: 6,992 Senior Member
    It's a pretty typical Canadian view. My wife's father lived in Windsor and had a bunch of Canadian friends who would come down during the winter. They really don't understand our "obsession" with handguns. It was typical liberal / conservative banter.

    D
    "A patriot is mocked, scorned and hated; yet when his cause succeeds, all men will join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." Mark Twain
    Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.... now who's bringing the hot wings? :jester:
  • AGCAGC Banned Posts: 8 New Member
    BigDanS wrote: »
    It's a pretty typical Canadian view. My wife's father lived in Windsor and had a bunch of Canadian friends who would come down during the winter. They really don't understand our "obsession" with handguns. It was typical liberal / conservative banter.

    D

    I think you'd have to agree that some of you do take gun owner ship to extremes. Not to step on any toes.

    I voice my opinion and I'm an "idiot"? A "troll"? Name calling when you think I've gone? Come on guys! A few of you sound confused. I never said gun ownership was wrong. I thought I made that clear. I simply said that I don't believe in the need to "carry concealed". For sport...yes. Hunting...yes (though I don't agree with hunting). Law enforcement/military? Yes...of course. Protect your home? Perhaps..if you live in the woods/mountains..or, in some ghetto. I just don't see any need to walk around with a concealed firearm if you live in a good area or big city. This isn't the "wild west" any more. :)

    Too easy to get arms and ammo here in the US (e.g. the psycho who went on a shooting spree in the Aurora theater screening The Dark Knight Rises). And the armor he was able to outfit himself with (should only be sold to law enforcement/military). Just needed a credit card and internet access. You have to agree here this has to change.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QjZY3WiO9s&feature=g-vrec

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycWEklnZO9Q&feature=g-vrec

    There's absolutely no reason for a civilian to carry concealed. Nor should one be able to buy firearms/ammo/armor online. Period.
  • bmlbml Senior Member Posts: 1,075 Senior Member
    AGC wrote: »
    I think you'd have to agree that some of you do take gun owner ship to extremes. Not to step on any toes.

    I voice my opinion and I'm an "idiot"? A "troll"? Name calling when you think I've gone? Come on guys! A few of you sound confused. I never said gun ownership was wrong. I thought I made that clear. I simply said that I don't believe in the need to "carry concealed". For sport...yes. Hunting...yes (though I don't agree with hunting). Law enforcement/military? Yes...of course. Protect your home? Perhaps..if you live in the woods/mountains..or, in some ghetto. I just don't see any need to walk around with a concealed firearm if you live in a good area or big city. This isn't the "wild west" any more. :)

    Too easy to get arms and ammo here in the US (e.g. the psycho who went on a shooting spree in the Aurora theater screening The Dark Knight Rises). And the armor he was able to outfit himself with (should only be sold to law enforcement/military). Just needed a credit card and internet access. You have to agree here this has to change.

    I agree, there must be drastic changes. Changes that allow every law abiding citizen to carry whatever gun they want, in whatever manner they want.
  • WeatherbyWeatherby Senior Member Posts: 4,953 Senior Member
    BigDanS wrote: »
    It's a pretty typical Canadian view. My wife's father lived in Windsor and had a bunch of Canadian friends who would come down during the winter. They really don't understand our "obsession" with handguns. It was typical liberal / conservative banter.

    D

    Dan that's a pretty wide brush to be painting with and knowing you it's not your intent
  • bmlbml Senior Member Posts: 1,075 Senior Member
    Oh, just to clear it up, yes, I think you are a troll. If I go to an anti gun site extolling the virtues of gun ownership, that would make me a troll because I know before I make the very first post, that the vast majority of the folks there dont share my opinions and my comments will not be well received.
Sign In or Register to comment.
Magazine Cover

GET THE MAGAZINE Subscribe & Save

Temporary Price Reduction

SUBSCRIBE NOW

Give a Gift   |   Subscriber Services

PREVIEW THIS MONTH'S ISSUE

GET THE NEWSLETTER Join the List and Never Miss a Thing.

Get the top Guns & Ammo stories delivered right to your inbox every week.

Advertisement