A Question About The Presidency

woodsrunnerwoodsrunner Senior MemberPosts: 2,725 Senior Member
The President is the Commander-In-Chief of all of the U.S. Military Forces. This is a "given", and is not questioned. He has the last word in command. Does this make the President a member of the U.S.Armed Forces?

All Military Personnel are subjects of the Uniform Code Of Military Justice, (UCMJ) a system of Law in addition to the civil laws of the Country. Does the President's position as C-N-C also make him subject to the UCMJ? Just wondering :uhm:

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  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 9,663 Senior Member
    From what I remember from when Clinton was President, and he forced Uniformed Officers in the Army to serve hors d'oeuvres and drinks at a White House function- Yes. The Pres. is supposed to be under the UCMJ.

    And no, Clinton was never brought up on charges for that violation of the UCMJ
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 25,759 Senior Member
    According to Article 2 of the UCMJ the President isn't subject to it.
    However................Drop down to the part of this link that deals with the Military Police Authority Over Persons Not Subject to the UCMJ.
    Pretty interesting stuff there.

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/19-10/Ch5.htm
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  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 23,895 Senior Member
    :that:
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  • samzheresamzhere Banned Posts: 10,923 Senior Member
    The Prez is commander in chief but civilian. So no, he's not subject to the military code of conduct.

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  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,257 Senior Member
    That's probably a good thing- - - -some of this president's actions would be capital crimes according to the UCMJ! The Code of Conduct and the Uniform Code of Military Justice are two entirely different things. Anyone who has ever served in uniform knows the difference.
    Jerry
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  • woodsrunnerwoodsrunner Senior Member Posts: 2,725 Senior Member
    That's kinda what I had in mind, Jerry! When Bill Clinton got caught with Monica Lewinski didn't he cite the UCMJ in his defence saying that "he did not have sex with that woman"? Remember, the UCMJ defines "sex" as "Penertation....however slight, but necessary." I don't think that our present president could withstand close examination under the UCMJ. But let's drop it right there.....the UCMJ is too sacred an instrument to be trashed up :usa:
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