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First freeze tonite. Time for squirrel hunt.

jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Posts: 10,885 Senior Member
Back in school, I'd be out opening day. Nowadays, between the skeeters, ticks, and warbles, I just wait till we get a couple good frosts or a freeze.

Need to sight in the .22 first. Someone posted about a sale on Leupold .22 scopes awhile back, and I picked up a VX-1 2-7. Liked the Nikon, but they have a pretty fat crosshair on them. Curious to see what I can get @ 50 yards now. No target ammo, plain old 36gr Mini-Mags...
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson

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  • RazorbackerRazorbacker Posts: 4,646 Senior Member
    jbp-ohio wrote: »
    Back in school, I'd be out opening day. Nowadays, between the skeeters, ticks, and warbles, I just wait till we get a couple good frosts or a freeze.

    Need to sight in the .22 first. Someone posted about a sale on Leupold .22 scopes awhile back, and I picked up a VX-1 2-7. Liked the Nikon, but they have a pretty fat crosshair on them. Curious to see what I can get @ 50 yards now. No target ammo, plain old 36gr Mini-Mags...

    No freeze here but still supposed to get cold. We've been in a typical weather pattern here lately. Rained like a cow pissin on a flat rock all day yesterday and was warm. Turned off cold behind the rain.
    Don't much squirrel hunt any more. Used to, sitting on a deer stand, I'd have my .45LC on my right hip for back up and a .22 revolver on my left in a crossdraw to take a squirrel or two if the opportunity presented itself.
    But Fall is here. And after a very hot, dry, Summer, I welcome it.
    Teach your children to love guns, they'll never be able to afford drugs
  • woodsrunnerwoodsrunner Posts: 2,725 Senior Member
    For God's sake PLEASE send that cold weather on down to Fladah! The whiteflys are killing me in the garden :yikes:! Worst infestation in 20 years according to the research people at the Ag Research Station! Also have a MAJOR problem with other insects, but these I can control-with a lot of effort-with organically approved insecticides. But not whiteflys!

    We had no winter at all last year....maybe a couple of very light frosts, but no more. Way too early to think about squirrel hunting down here. About all small game is still full of wolves and will be 'till we have a couple of cold snaps.
  • bklysenbklysen Posts: 522 Senior Member
    Those wolf bugs are just plain disgusting. Had no idea what they were until one day I shot a squirrel and noticed the hide moving a bit, thought I was witnessing a reenactment of the flick 'Alien'. Godawful scene as he emerged, and I came here to ask a question about what it was - turns out there was already a thread on them.

    Nowadays I don't get close to that small game until a good, hard freeze based upon what I read back then.

    Just curious....what actually happens to those critters when that hard freeze occurs?
  • NNNN Posts: 25,228 Senior Member
    Freeze or no freeze, the sgurrrel season starts 13 oct.
  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Posts: 5,797 Senior Member
    bklysen wrote: »

    Just curious....what actually happens to those critters when that hard freeze occurs?


    Those ugly little monsters are actually bot fly larvae and as most flying insects, they go dorment in the winter.
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
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  • bklysenbklysen Posts: 522 Senior Member
    Fisheadgib wrote: »
    Those ugly little monsters are actually bot fly larvae and as most flying insects, they go dorment in the winter.

    What about when they're already embedded in the flesh of said critter? Even after temps fall below freezing and stay there - would the host critter's body temp allow them to continue living, and feasting, on the host indefinitely? Not sure that I really want to know. :silly: But, the thought occurred to me, so I just gotta ask.
  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Posts: 5,797 Senior Member
    bklysen wrote: »
    What about when they're already embedded in the flesh of said critter? Even after temps fall below freezing and stay there - would the host critter's body temp allow them to continue living, and feasting, on the host indefinitely? Not sure that I really want to know. :silly: But, the thought occurred to me, so I just gotta ask.


    Here's a condensed version of their life cycle; Host critter walks along and picks up eggs from the ground which attact to the host's hair or fur or critter eats another critter that already has eggs or larvae in it. Eggs hatch an enter host through a break in skin or are ingested when host grooms itself. Larvae takes about 30 days to mature and then larvae climbs out of host and falls to the ground to pupate. The larvae pupates to a fly which mates and lays eggs in it's 10 to 14 days of life and the cycle starts over again. The pupation stage is dependant on temp and can last from 28 days to 11 months. During this period, the pupae are on the ground waiting for it to warm up outside so that it can develope into a fly. Bottom line is that they're only going to be on the host for about a month and cold weather will keep the pupae on the ground until it warms up again. Although there is a species that favors horses and can stay in the host for up to 11 months.
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
    .
  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Posts: 10,885 Senior Member
    bklysen wrote: »
    What about when they're already embedded in the flesh of said critter? Even after temps fall below freezing and stay there - would the host critter's body temp allow them to continue living, and feasting, on the host indefinitely? Not sure that I really want to know. :silly: But, the thought occurred to me, so I just gotta ask.


    They are larvae for only a couple weeks, then they become a botfly. If they fly survives the cold, it will find a place to hide from the cold until spring.
    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
  • TeachTeach Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    The reason to wait for a couple of good freezes is so the infested squirrels or rabbits will die from the infections caused by the open sores. What happens to the larvae is immaterial- - - -I just don't want to have to deal with the diseased game! The sores and the parasites' feeding weakens the host animal so it usually doesn't survive the cold weather.
    Jerry
  • bklysenbklysen Posts: 522 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    I am SO glad our tree rats dont get those!
    if I can ever get my 1022 to freaking shoot I cant wait to go kill some.

    I'm guessing they do, you just ain't seen the evidence yet. Thinking I'm xx north of you. And all that. But, just beware.
  • Six-GunSix-Gun Posts: 8,155 Senior Member
    Those mini-mags are gonna light em' up good on head shots. I miss squirrel hunting. Out here, unless you want to hunt ground squirrels, you're out of luck.
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Posts: 10,885 Senior Member
    Six-Gun wrote: »
    Those mini-mags are gonna light em' up good on head shots. I miss squirrel hunting. Out here, unless you want to hunt ground squirrels, you're out of luck.

    Squirrel is the only thing I will still hunt on public ground (not during deer gun season though)....
    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Posts: 6,583 Senior Member
    Im so jealous...a place with a real winter. And a freeze in October!? Ugh...Florida...
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
  • sarg1csarg1c Posts: 1,707 Senior Member
    jbp-ohio wrote: »
    Back in school, I'd be out opening day. Nowadays, between the skeeters, ticks, and warbles, I just wait till we get a couple good frosts or a freeze.

    Need to sight in the .22 first. Someone posted about a sale on Leupold .22 scopes awhile back, and I picked up a VX-1 2-7. Liked the Nikon, but they have a pretty fat crosshair on them. Curious to see what I can get @ 50 yards now. No target ammo, plain old 36gr Mini-Mags...

    I was up in central Ohio, Mansfield , last week and it was getting cool then. By the way when I crossed the Ohio River, I saw a lot of squirrels swimming South, guess they herd you was going to the woods...
  • woodsrunnerwoodsrunner Posts: 2,725 Senior Member
    If you saw squirrels swimming a river going south, those squirrels were migrating en massess. That happens on a 3-7-12-21 year basis for some reason. When two or more of those years/cycles coincide, then the numbers can be overwhelming! One of those weird happenings that those of us in the wildlife management/biology business watch for!
  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Posts: 10,885 Senior Member
    Well, since I now have to work every day left in October, they will get a short reprieve..... Start a 12hr 4day on, 4 day off schedule in November..
    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
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