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MOA Maximum and the Wyoming Goat Hunt. (Pic Heavy)

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  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,158 Senior Member
    Resistance is futile! You're toast and you know it!
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • 5280 shooter II5280 shooter II Posts: 3,923 Senior Member
    Zee, you get Ernie into an AR.....then the circle will be complete....there's no resisting the Power of the Dark side of the Force!....:tooth:
    God show's mercy on drunks and dumb animals.........two outa three ain't a bad score!
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,158 Senior Member
    He has one. Just gotta get a rifle lower for it. But, that's easy.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • 5280 shooter II5280 shooter II Posts: 3,923 Senior Member
    Oh yeah, forgot about that one, my bad! You get my PM?
    God show's mercy on drunks and dumb animals.........two outa three ain't a bad score!
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,158 Senior Member
    :up:
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Posts: 8,566 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    Resistance is futile!
    The Borg you are not.:nono:


    I have plenty of things to keep me busy.
    I have shot two different rifles in the past 7 days: A crummy Ruger 300 Winny with a 100 pound trigger, and a real nice McMillan single shot 50 Cal
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,158 Senior Member
    All part of the plan.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Posts: 8,566 Senior Member
    AS if you had something to do with that:silly:NOT!
    Zee wrote: »
    All part of the plan.
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,158 Senior Member
    Pawns in a game. Pawns in a game.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,158 Senior Member
    While getting dope for the MOA in Wyoming, we shot at even yardage like 200, 300, 400 etc.

    When I ranged the doe at 350, we didn't have dope for that. I told Ernie to come up 8 Minutes of angle and it worked.

    Today, I actually chronographed that load out of the pistol. Imputed the data in a ballistics program.

    You know what the program called for at 350 yards?

    8.2 MOA

    Who needs a chronograph? Thank you. Thank you very much. BAM!!!
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Six-GunSix-Gun Posts: 8,155 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    Once your kids start going hunting with you, it will change your life. It is absolutely awesome! Difficult at times, but more than worth the reward both of you will get out of it.

    Since my daughter turned 4, I have only hunted about 3 times without her. When I did, I missed her. She is my hunting partner and my boy is getting there as well.

    I worked up some awesome reduced loads for my .243 and the kids. 32gr of H4895 under 85gr Sierra BTHP Gamekings and my kids are dinging steel and targets at 200 yards and beyond. They work great and don't beat the kids up.

    Might give something like that a try. There is no question that load will work on game under 250 yards or so. I've been impressed with the Sierra BTHP Gameking in this and other calibers.

    I really can't wait to get my daughter out there. She is going to be gung ho, especially when it comes time to field dress. Like you daughter, she's not shy when it comes to gore.

    Also, thanks for the starting point with the GameKing load. With the distances you typically find in Nebraksa (under 200 yards), that kind of load is perfect, 85 gr. is more than ample on whitetails, and I know the GameKing is very velocity range-friendly as far as expansion and terminal performance.
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Posts: 8,566 Senior Member
    2375 with the 168 A-Max.
    You were surely on the money.
    You did have drops for 300 and 400 yards, but being .2 MOA off is really, really close:up:
    Zee wrote: »
    While getting dope for the MOA in Wyoming, we shot at even yardage like 200, 300, 400 etc.

    When I ranged the doe at 350, we didn't have dope for that. I told Ernie to come up 8 Minutes of angle and it worked.

    Today, I actually chronographed that load out of the pistol. Imputed the data in a ballistics program.

    You know what the program called for at 350 yards?

    8.2 MOA

    Who needs a chronograph? Thank you. Thank you very much. BAM!!!
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,158 Senior Member
    2375 with the 168 A-Max.
    You were surely on the money.
    You did have drops for 300 and 400 yards, but being .2 MOA off is really, really close:up:

    If you will recall a certain argument on this forum awhile back between two individuals which will remain un-named (Beartracker). Who, posed that a chronograph was needed to collect drops.

    Apparently not.

    The other side of the argument was that known drops could be used to determine the needed MOA.

    I'm not saying I got 8 minutes out of thin air. Yes, we knew 300/400. That was used to get 350. Without a chronograph.

    It ain't rocket surgery. I ain't that smart.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • BigslugBigslug Posts: 9,769 Senior Member
    Eyeballs. . .heee! Youth of America: CORRUPTED!:cool2:

    8 MOA. . .Now yer just showin' off!
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Posts: 8,566 Senior Member
    Well, you got me curious so, I opened up Exbal and put in 4300 feet elevation, 2375 FPS with the 168 A-Max, 60 degrees, 30% humidity and a 1.9" sight height above bore, 100 yard zero.
    Drop for 350 yards=7.75 MOA
    Now I know why I shot .875 inches high on that lope!:jester::roll2:
    What did you put your sight height above bore at?
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Posts: 8,566 Senior Member
    Your effervescent personality, shooting and wind calling skill makes up for the genius part:tooth:
    Okay, at 350 yards 1 MOA= 3.50" (Shooter's MOA)
    .5 MOA = 1.75" at 350 yards
    So, a .25 MOA at 350 yards would be....You get the point
    Zee wrote: »
    I'm no math genius, but isn't the difference between 7.75" and 8.0" a grand total of .25" and NOt .875"?

    I may be wrong. It's happened before.
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • Grizz1219Grizz1219 Posts: 424 Member
    That MOA is beautiful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • TeachTeach Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    Zee, I worked up a 130 grain .30 caliber gas checked hard cast plinker load for my grandkids, and they love it. My grandson shoots it from a 7.62 CETME 1916 Guardia Civil Mauser, his sister uses the same bullet in a 7.62X39 small ring Mauser I built up for her, and the other boy shoots it from a .30-30 Marlin 336. All of them are loaded to similar velocities, around 2K FPS. I quench the bullets into icewater, straight from the mold, using a 20:1 lead:tin alloy.
    Jerry
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