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WORLD T
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New Ruger Mini 14 accuracy?
WORLD T
Posts: 262 Member
Folks, what kind of accuracy can I expect from a new Ruger Mini 14 in .223 now days? My LGS has several Mini 14's on his shelves for sale.
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Ruger claims the latest generation of Minis are more accurate than earlier ones.
How much?:uhm:
I doubt the out of box accuracy of any mini will be anything to write home over, but I believe that if you can bed Garands and M1-As and work their triggers over and make shooters out of them, that a mini 14 also has potential in that respect, especially if it's chambered for the potentially accurate .223 Remington cartridge.
You are far better off with an AR-15 as it is logistically better in every way.
"Slow is smooth, smooth is fast, and speed is the economy of motion" - Scott Jedlinski
I think the mini's popularity has more to do with asthetics. That is what does it in my case. I like ARs but there's something sexy about the whole Garand family. If you can get one to shoot, then you have the best of both worlds. To some, the Flash Gordon looking contraption called an AR is just too much to bear I think.
Don't forget , the A-Team used them!
Come to think of it , they never hit anyone with them either!
Yep, and we all know what kind of people those folks are.
Hey Jeff. I'm sorry but I'm confused. Are you saying "one" shot is close to the bull and then things open up or like a 3/5 shot group? I only ask because like Snake I've thought of picking one up when I get current projects finished up and dialed in.
I can see where one would make a great walk about rifle for late Winter varmints of opportunity.
Also, regarding Snake's comments on bedded Garands, I remember reading years ago about the so called National Match Garands. This guy said it was all in the bedding. He also contended that if you ever took it out of that armory bedding it lost it's accuracy. Or maybe it was "sniper Garands". Anyway that's what i remember reading.
"...we all..." Got a mouse in your pocket? LOL. Through out the centerfire cartridge/ America's wars the boys came home and bought Krags, then Springfields, then self loaders/Garands. And now we have the AR platform phenomena. Which is a very good thing.
But the .223/5.56 is a little different. While in capable hands it will take whitetails it is far from a "go to" cartridge for big game. No one, and I mean no one would argue it's efficacy when you're talking about bear, elk, etc. And yes I'm well familiar with the AR 10 platform. I am even familiar with the available .50 BMG upper. I'm also aware of the continuing evolution of the other .30 cals. Blackout, Whisper, etc.
Anywho, if i were a hide bound traditionalist I would would say, get back to me when those things are available in .30-'06, .338 Win Mag. Or .300 H&H Mag. But I'm not so buy what you want and I'll do the same.
To each his own in the shooting sports. I'm no Zumbo.
Sorry, I should have put a :tooth: at the end of that statement.
I completely support differing opinions, and if someone likes a Mini over an AR, "just because", I have no problem with that. However, there are some "sporting purpose" type folks out there that'll buy a Mini but not an AR, because the AR looks "scary" and the Mini doesn't.
Those folks are goofier'n an outhouse rat.
I also agree with you about the capability of the cartridge/platform. While yes, you can get them chambered in .338 Federal and some Super Short Mags, there are limits to what you can do with the platform.
I don't see how the new ones can improve on accuracy too much, they're still built basically the same. If a mobs at the gate during a TEOTAWKI event, or I think I may run into a yote at under 100 yards out in the hills, it's a viable tool. But other than that it's just a fun little plinker.
There is still a place in my world for that!
Am I happy with that?.....By all means.....I never liked the AR platform.....even when the government made me carry one.
Would I trust my life on the Mini.....You bet I would.
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I choose equipment based on versatility, more so now too, the Mini 14 is interesting, I had a SS version, and after much tweeking, it shot ragged one hole groups.
The AR-15 is versatile and can be adapted in countless ways, from off the charts varminter in multi calibers, to personal defense arms, to pistols etc..... what is there not to like ??? with the Mini 14 you are quite limited in calibers and configuration, not to mention you need a full machine shop to modify it to any extent...
Sako
I don't remember writing anything about wanting to adapt my mini to anything other than a .223 ranch rifle:uhm:
I am happy with it just as it is.
If you and others like the AR then that's wonderful,buy them,build them,tweek them to your hearts content.....just not my cup of tea.
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Posted here before yours truly shooting my Ruger Mini-14 at the range in Las Cruces, NM last year. 5rnd magazine. I have 10 and 20 rnds mags. too.
.30 cal carbine on the top. Ruger mini-14 bottom. Magazines for both rifles.
Notice the laundry basket in the photos. I am fixin to clean the rifles,,get it, no pun intended!!!!!!!!!!!!!:rotflmao::rotflmao::cool2:
No actor ever does hit anything in a lot of the TV movies.... I loved that A Team show!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wish it was back on the TV.. Thanks mkk41!!!!!!!!!!
I carried an M-16 fer 20 years in the Army and am having a heck of a time wanting an AR for myself. But admittedly I'm getting more and more impressed with how well they can shoot these days, some giving bolt action accuracy from a semi. I haven't decided to pull the trigger and get one just yet, but my resistance is weakening as time goes by.
Concerning the Mini 14s, it is what it is or they are what they are. I have the Ranch Rifle version in .223 and don't plan on getting rid of it. Reliable as all get-out, it will feed and fire anything in 5.56 or .223 I choose to stuff in it. Capable of fantastic first couple rounds fired accuracy, then all the things said above take over.
No joke, 10 years ago a friend was helping me zero a cheap Simmons scope on mine and he cut the X @ 100 yards his first shot after adjusting the knobs a little.
Guy at work has one of the new models, I hope to get to shoot it one day, side by side and see what enhancements they made and what difference they make.
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
Now if cpj was in that pic wearing his sexy Spandex's and holding a Mini 14....the free world would take notice....:yikes::tooth:
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
cpj in Spandex's with a Ruger Mini-14,:roll::uhm: That's has to be the 9th wonder of the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:silly::tooth::beer::popcorn::rotflmao:
Let's brainstorm this like the bunch of quasi-mechanical gun-nuts we are: So we say it's not that accurate......then why, and how do we address that item? What do we fix?
I for one see barrel harmonics dampened off-node by the gas block.....but doesn't the AR also have an attached gas block? Therefore negating ANY notion of a "free floated barrel"? What else hampers or intrudes upon the Mini's barrel?
I see no reason given American Inginuity that the Mini shouldn't be "more accurate".....so what' causing the problem?
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