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"And Their Off!!!!""" First out of the Gate: GOP Leaders Jockeying for 2016

robert38-55robert38-55 Senior MemberDenver,Co.Posts: 3,621 Senior Member
Well I hope the GOP gets their act together for 2016,but in the mean time we have to survive another 4 years of Ovommit,if we can.

And they're off! Republican hopefuls for the 2016 presidential nomination are already warming up their campaigns

LAS VEGAS — Louisiana's Bobby Jindal is urging the Republican Party to rethink its pitch to voters. Bob McDonnell of Virginia says Republicans should look to outsiders to fix partisan gridlock in Washington. Their fellow governor, Wisconsin's Scott Walker, says the next GOP leader must do a better job explaining why the party's policies will help ordinary Americans.

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie is holding court with admirers — and ignoring reporters as he ducks into nominally private meetings. And Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida is packing his bags for a very public trip to Iowa.

Yes, the jockeying for 2016 has already begun.

Less than two weeks after Republican nominee Mitt Romney came up short in his bid to unseat President Barack Obama, the next class of GOP presidential hopefuls is laying the groundwork for bids of their own. Some subtle and some overt, the maneuvering by would-be-candidates runs along a sometimes perilous path marked by donors, operatives and party elders.

"Everybody who is already thinking about the 2016 presidential race need to have their head examined," Jindal said in an interview on the sidelines of the Republican Governors Association meeting on the Las Vegas Strip. "Anybody thinking about 2016 is absolutely ridiculous."

Yet, here's Jindal, providing a stinging criticism of Romney's campaign and offering an alternative. He urged his party to work for middle-class voters and to shed the label of a party for "big business and big banks." The party needs to retool its entire messaging — not just "minor cosmetic changes" — and go after every voter, he said, not just those who are white.

"There's a lot of important work that needs to be done over the next several months and years," the 41-year-old Louisiana governor said, positioning himself as a pragmatic candidate in a party that lacks a standard-bearer.

After Romney's failure, many of his fellow Republicans are urging his quick departure from the spotlight. In the process, they are putting themselves forward as his successor and planting the seeds of a White House run of their own.

In appearances and interviews, the 58-year-old McDonnell worked to cast himself as the conservative foil to Obama, tweaking the Democratic administration on everything from health care to energy policy. At every opportunity, McDonnell spoke of himself as a political outsider.

"There is a brand, there is a set of ideas that Republican governors are offering that stands in fairly stark contrast to what Washington is offering," McDonnell told reporters on Thursday. "Washington is broken. It's in debt. It's engaged in partisan bickering."

The Virginia governor, who is set to leave office in early 2014, is already fanning speculation about his next move. He is coming off a successful turn as chairman of the Republican Governors Association, which will soon count 30 members among its ranks, and stepping up his national profile.

Another outsider, Wisconsin's Walker, tried to soften his image with a big-tent pitch that welcomed more voters. The first governor to survive a recall election, Walker said the answer lies in how leaders communicate with voters.

"I think it's not that our beliefs are wrong," said Walker, 45. "I don't think we do an effective enough job of articulating those beliefs and what it means in people's lives."

He isn't talking about a 2016 candidacy, of course, but Walker said governors' experiences are typically an advantage.

Another tough-talking figure, Christie tried to dodge headlines entirely on his trip to Las Vegas, his first outside New Jersey since Superstorm Sandy battered its coastline. Christie, 50, brushed aside questions about his political future and steadfastly refused approaches from reporters.

Instead of a public show, Christie met in private with former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, one of the GOP's top strategists and a potential kingmaker in 2016.

To be sure, other would-be candidates are eyeing the next presidential race, and it's far too early to draft an exhaustive list of potential contenders. For instance, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum is keeping his network of supporters in Iowa engaged. And Romney's running mate, Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, has returned to his job in Congress while his allies work to make sure he doesn't preclude a presidential bid.

Such behind-the-scenes efforts are in stark contrast to Rubio, the 41-year-old, first-term senator from Florida, who is making a post-Election Day trip to Iowa this weekend. Ostensibly, the purpose of Rubio's trip is to attend Iowa Gov. Terry Branstad's birthday party.

"It's going to be a great event," Branstad said with a wide grin.

The political importance is not lost on anyone, given that Iowa hosts the first presidential caucuses.

"Come to Iowa," Branstad urged, "early and often.

"It is what it is":usa:


  • TeachTeach Senior Member Dellrose TNPosts: 18,428 Senior Member
    When are the RINO's going to learn that being "dummycrap lite" is not the way to win elections? Give the people a clear choice, not a watered-down, PC approach to solving the problems we face. It's entirely possible that we're going to have to get to a full-blown meltdown of society before any changes get made, and I think that's pretty likely to happen before the next election comes around. Let's hope we won't have to do our voting with powder and lead (or whatever non-toxic substitute we're allowed to use by Big Brother)! Lock and load!
  • robert38-55robert38-55 Senior Member Denver,Co.Posts: 3,621 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    When are the RINO's going to learn that being "dummycrap lite" is not the way to win elections? Give the people a clear choice, not a watered-down, PC approach to solving the problems we face. It's entirely possible that we're going to have to get to a full-blown meltdown of society before any changes get made, and I think that's pretty likely to happen before the next election comes around. Let's hope we won't have to do our voting with powder and lead (or whatever non-toxic substitute we're allowed to use by Big Brother)! Lock and load!

    Teach,this is the exact 'fearfactor' that most of us in the USA,are trying to deal with now. The RINO's simply put "Go along,to get along," and I know from my own life's past experience that method doesn't work,never has, never will. I feel that these RINO's are playing the Politically Correct,card, and again that doesn't work either. There has been a few new reports on why the Republican's lost, and of course everyone and everyone's brother has an excuse or reason for this.

    Unlike the failed 2008 challenger John McCain, who is active in the US Senate,Romney has no elected office to use as a platform,nor is he now trusted by many of the party's moderates or conservatives.

    I read an article the other day and the article said that Romney has no natural base in the party outside the world of high finance and big business. Now,given the fact of past USA financial melt down history,folks were already pretty sick of big business and finance. Don't get me wrong, I am a Right winger,Republican, conserative, always have been, and always will be. One of the rumors going around was that it was thought that Romney,was uncomfortable with some of the conservative positions he had to take to win his party's 2012 nomination.

    Romney won the white vote with 59%,but minorities coalesced around Ovommit with 93% of Blacks and 71% of Hispanics,according to the exit polls. The changing demographics of the US,means those minority voters are only likely to get more powerful in future elections, which could be the very cause of Society's Melt down, as you pointed out.

    As the Republican Party digests its defeat by Ovommit, a profound debate is taking place about its future direction given the breakdown of the results. One Republican, Idaho congressman Raul Labrador, was very brutal in his assessment of Romney's position in the party. Quoted as saying Raul Labrador: "He's not going to be running for anything in the future," he told the Washington Post.

    Teach, I think about half of this country is/has already started to contemplate a total melt down of the USA as we know it. Our society is in melt-down. Uncontrolled chaos exists on all fronts,fueled by greed,power and a lack of consideration for human kind and a grave misunderstanding of morality.

    Our own USA politicians, be it ( right,left and others) are bought and paid for by special interest. They lie,mislead and speak in "spin-gibberish" rhetoric, to confuse the people. The only interest of most politicians is feeding their egos through verbal self flatulation and getting re-elected. It is the hot air from our government officials that is adding to the upcoming global warming catastrophe.

    Corporate influence and crime is another factor for the melt down. Criminal corporate executives are ignored while our legal system spends most of their time prosecuting small time criminals. Corporate greed and power is totally out of control in this country, and has been for decades. Why? Because of corporate greed and power control over our government. This issue has been documented many many times.

    People are politically brain dead,they have become like sheep.They don't think for themselves and happily follow some charismatic leader off the cliff.They are stubborn as mules, who has to be hit in the head with a board just to get its attention. Sadly enough just like an alcoholic live, they are going to have to hit "Rock Bottom" before they finally realize that hey have destroyed their lives. Only then will they do something to correct the problem.

    ....Can our country and our way of life be saved? Yes, but the sad fact is that our economy will probably have to be almost completely destroyed before anyone will do anything about it. Massive hardships and possible another depression. To get control of the problem people have to rise up in mass,stop the iconic cheerleading that's going on in the USA, and demand that our government fix itself. However, that isn't likely to happen until the " Big Collapse of our Economy."

    History shows that many other major powers of the past didn't wake up in time and their societies are now gone. Will the majority of the people in the USA,wake up in time to save our Country? I don't know this is yet to be seen.
    "It is what it is":usa:
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 9,696 Senior Member
    I find it VERY disturbing that people are actually lobbying to inherit the total TRAIN WRECK we'll be looking at in four years. More proof to me that anybody that wants that job should under no circumstances be given it.

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • robert38-55robert38-55 Senior Member Denver,Co.Posts: 3,621 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    These republican dick bags will up 2016, too. "Well, we THOUGHT the people wanted a kinder, gentler republican party". They will come up with all kinds of things they THINK we want.

    Ive got a dollar that says we lose in 2016. Any takers?

    OK cpj, I will take ya up on that since I am a Republican too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I ain't normally a betting man, but this will be fun. If I loose, how do ya want your pay? Confederate, US fraudlent Treasurer Notes, Euro's, peso's, Rubel's Yin's? Or 4 US quarter's so you can go to a dirty movie?:roll::beer::rotflmao:
    "It is what it is":usa:
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