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bisley
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Income Tax
bisley
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I've just finished E-filing my income taxes, and as usual, I'm completely disgusted.
I always torture myself, at the end of the process, by ticking off all the wonderful things the government does for me, and evaluating whether it justifies the $35-$40 a day I pay for them. Heck, I didn't even earn $40 a day until about the time my first child was born.
Let's see here, now. They defend the borders - no wait...the Texas Rangers and a few ranchers do most of that.
They fix the potholes in the Interstate, or at least hire illegal aliens to do it.
They deliver my mail, occasionally, if my mailbox meets the stringent specifications of size, height, most convenient side of the road (for them), etc.
They give my state some money to educate and feed my children - no wait...my children are grown, and besides I work for a living, so I don't qualify for any of that.
Let's see here...a...a...help me out here, folks. At the moment, I'm thinking that, basically, I work so that I can send a pile of money to be used by people I do not trust or agree with on most things, to be spent as they see fit. They get to choose the charities I 'donate' to and how much each gets, while I end up short-changing the ones I genuinely care about.
Make me feel better about this...Alf? ...Hakkonen? ....anybody?
I always torture myself, at the end of the process, by ticking off all the wonderful things the government does for me, and evaluating whether it justifies the $35-$40 a day I pay for them. Heck, I didn't even earn $40 a day until about the time my first child was born.
Let's see here, now. They defend the borders - no wait...the Texas Rangers and a few ranchers do most of that.
They fix the potholes in the Interstate, or at least hire illegal aliens to do it.
They deliver my mail, occasionally, if my mailbox meets the stringent specifications of size, height, most convenient side of the road (for them), etc.
They give my state some money to educate and feed my children - no wait...my children are grown, and besides I work for a living, so I don't qualify for any of that.
Let's see here...a...a...help me out here, folks. At the moment, I'm thinking that, basically, I work so that I can send a pile of money to be used by people I do not trust or agree with on most things, to be spent as they see fit. They get to choose the charities I 'donate' to and how much each gets, while I end up short-changing the ones I genuinely care about.
Make me feel better about this...Alf? ...Hakkonen? ....anybody?
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Yeah, if I knew that most of that was trickling down to military families, and that their Commander-In-Chief was looking out for their interests, I wouldn't whine about it.
Agreed^^^^^^^^^ Your's and mine, tax dollars at work!!!!!!!!!!
:that::agree: Spending my tax dollars on Military folks, and veterans, I have no problem with. I would like to see more done for our Vets!!!!!!!!!
We are now locked out of property we own. That is a fine use of our tax dollars. :roll:
Adam J. McCleod
I would add another 50 bucks to provide health care to the most neady.
How many lives and how much treasure did we lose in Viet nam?
Not to mention Iraq and Afghanistan.
I know people with no insurance.
They go to the emergency room.
That's the most expensive kind of health insurance.
We all pay for it anyway by insurance company rates.
Take the insurance companies out of the equasion and we'd save money.
Jim
You'll like this then.
We filed sometime in Feb and checked the block to roll the refund of a small amount over to apply to next years taxes.
We got that money refunded anyway two weeks ago.
So do I. They pay cash and negotiate for the best price, or pay it out over time.
As for the government mandate, it isn't necessary as long as there are folks like you who willingly donate their hard-earned money to take care of the poor....you are donating that 50 bucks, already, I assume?
Or are you waiting for the government to make you do it?
No wonder they've been broke for thirty years.
Of course, your post was about income tax but the point remains the same.
George Carlin
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
No, it's not. We are supposed to be a republic, and the people we elect to represent us are supposed to decide how to spend the part of our earnings we allow them to have...wisely. Democracies don't survive indefinitely because the non-producers get to select the leaders that will give them what they want, at the expense of the producers, who are now the smaller voting block, or will be soon. It makes no difference what poor people need, if the producers cannot support them.
I'm old enough to remember that everybody used to work and live within their means, or line up for subsistence level groceries and volunteered medical services, paid for by private charities. The government didn't allow immigration, unless the person either had a sponsor or job skills that made their self-sufficiency and ability to pay taxes probable. Nobody starved. Small business flourished, because all they needed was a store front and desire to produce. Most of them failed two or three times before they got it right, but they kept trying till they got it right, or took a job with someone else who got it right.
How hard is it to figure out that the government cannot keep screwing the producers to 'temporarily' support the non-producers? It worked for quite a few years, because the government was still 'allowing' producers to flourish, but that has been slowed, steadily, over the years, and will inevitably come to a dead stop, at our current rate of decline.
The government will run out of other people's money to spend, at the current rate, and it shouldn't take much longer.
If there were, I'd do it.
Hospital emergency rooms are required to give care to anyone. Regardless of their status.
That's the most expensive type of heath care. Taxpayers end up paying for it anyway.
Jim
DPRMD
Here ya go. I found this for you.
[h=2]Gifts to the United States Government[/h] How do I make a contribution to the U.S. government?
Citizens who wish to make a general donation to the U.S. government may send contributions to a specific account called "Gifts to the United States." This account was established in 1843 to accept gifts, such as bequests, from individuals wishing to express their patriotism to the United States. Money deposited into this account is for general use by the federal government and can be available for budget needs. These contributions are considered an unconditional gift to the government. Financial gifts can be made by check or money order payable to the United States Treasury and mailed to the address below.
U.S. Department of the Treasury
Credit Accounting Branch
3700 East-West Highway, Room 622D
Hyattsville, MD 20782
That equates to taxpayers paying their medical costs.
Don't y'all see, we're paying for it anyway??
I say again, emergency room health care is the most expensive.
The insurance companies set a rate for specified procedures, the government is obliged to pay it, how ever inflated it may be.
I can't understand how you folks don't see that.
Also, you're incorrect about insurance rates for procedures and the government being obliged to pay the rate. The hospital sets a price and either insurance or the government pays their price. In the case of insurance, they negotiate a lower price than the hospital bills. The government pays an even lower price than the insurance by stating they won't pay any more. In general, it's those without insurance who pay the highest prices, unless they're declared indigent whereby they get a negotiated rate. In general, it's those with insurance who are defraying the costs of those who can't pay.
We don't see what you're seeing because that's not how it is.
I don't see it because that aint how the govt works. Why do you think some doctors don't do medicare or severly limit the amount of medicare patients they see? The govt doesn't pay insurance corporations for medical care that I am aware of, they pay doctors and hospitals and they do not pay whatever charge those doctors and hospitals want them to pay.
My wife is in the medical field, where she works the civilians pay x amount and govt pays the lessor medicare amount for the same service. Brother in law also in the medical field sees the exact same deal where he works.
Actually the Post Office does get tax dollars according to at least one source I could find.
"The USPS does get some taxpayer support. Around $96 million is budgeted annually by Congress for the "Postal Service Fund." These funds are used to compensate USPS for postage-free mailing for all legally blind persons and for mail-in election ballots sent from US citizens living overseas. A portion of the funds also pays USPS for providing address information to state and local child support enforcement agencies."