357 Mag Load for Black Bear

DalebowDalebow MemberPosts: 45 Member
I will be hunting fall bear in CO, will be passing thru som choke cherries and brush thats as tall as I am moving thru a ridge one side from the other. I have encounter a bear, they are not aggressive ( been here before) but given a shot at a broadside bear 25yards or less what round would you reccomend for my 357, 686, 7 shot, Mountain gun?? Again this is 25 yards or less, non disturbed bear??
Thanks
Dale

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  • BufordBuford Senior Member Posts: 6,666 Senior Member
    I suppose it's better than a sharp stick. I have know idea as to a 357 mag round for bear.
    Just look at the flowers Lizzie, just look at the flowers.
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,240 Senior Member
    After you shoot the bear at 25 yds. or less, it will no longer be a non-disturbed bear and might become aggressive.
    Overkill is underrated.
  • DalebowDalebow Member Posts: 45 Member
    I was thinking about this round, as I said, It is for closer bear, Ive killed em with an arrow and we are talking about Black bear, I know how big they get, I killed a 7' 503# so I know how big they can get, this is just in case he is close and I dont wanna try and find him in a scope at 25 yards.

    HSM Bear Ammunition 357 Magnum 180 Grain Round Nose Flat Point Gas Check Box of 50
  • BufordBuford Senior Member Posts: 6,666 Senior Member
    You could try Buffalo bore ammunition.

    http://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=100
    Just look at the flowers Lizzie, just look at the flowers.
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 19,112 Senior Member
    Buford wrote: »
    I agree with that load though it appears to be a few dollars cheaper @ Midway
    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/946487/buffalo-bore-ammunition-357-magnum-180-grain-lead-flat-nose-gas-check-box-of-20
    Other loads that I would feel comfortable with

    Fed 180 Swift A-Frame
    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/714835/federal-premium-vital-shok-ammunition-357-magnum-180-grain-swift-a-frame-box-of-20

    Grizzly 180 WFN
    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/117768/grizzly-ammunition-357-magnum-180-grain-cast-performance-lead-wide-flat-nose-gas-check-box-of-20

    I think any of the above loads + the 180 HSM load you mentioned should have the penetration you need
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • WeatherbyWeatherby Senior Member Posts: 4,808 Senior Member
    I have 180 grain Nosler Partition HG's on top of a dose of H110 for that situation
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    I'd choose a 300 grain hard cast. Yes, I know they don't make a .357 that big- - - -go for a .44 Mag, .45 Colt, or .454 Casull.
    Jerry
    Hide and wail in terror, Eloi- - - -We Morlocks are on the hunt!
    ASK-HOLE Someone who asks for advice and always does something opposite
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 7,151 Senior Member
    A recent thread of mine that you might find helpful:

    http://forums.gunsandammo.com/showthread.php?5790-Gelatin-Testing-my-cast-200-grain-38-s

    The point of it being that if you have a lot of mass, velocity becomes somewhat less critical to achieving adequate penetration. 180 grains is about as big as you are going to be able to find in a factory load - the reason being that some manufacturers barrels aren't able to stabilize something that heavy.

    180 grain semi-wadcutters at .357 velocities would be my choice for such activities.
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 15,270 Senior Member
    Sorry...I don't recommend the .357 Mag for general deer hunting much beyond bow hunting ranges and then only in experienced hands....much less something that has the possibility of chewing on you....get something that begins with a "4"...
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 15,379 Senior Member
    I would personally go with a 180gr hard cast if I had to use a 357.
  • justin10mmjustin10mm Senior Member Posts: 688 Senior Member
    I used the Grizzly 180gr. WFNGC on a deer and a hog the past year and am very impressed with their performance in the field. They are also available in component form from Cast Performance Bullet Company.

    Cor Bon makes/made a 200gr. Hard Cast load but I think 180gr. is the more practical upper limit in weight.
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 11,103 Senior Member
    justin10mm wrote: »
    I used the Grizzly 180gr. WFNGC on a deer and a hog the past year and am very impressed with their performance in the field. They are also available in component form from Cast Performance Bullet Company.

    Did you end up with one hole or two? Please describe your shots and yardage. Thanks in advance.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • mkk41mkk41 Banned Posts: 1,932 Senior Member
    Leave that microbore sissypistol home with the wife and get yerself something in a caliber that begins with a '4'.

    Or take someone who doesn't run as fast as you. Preferably someone ya don't like. :silly:
    "There are no victims , only volunteers!"
  • justin10mmjustin10mm Senior Member Posts: 688 Senior Member
    CHIRO1989 wrote: »
    Did you end up with one hole or two? Please describe your shots and yardage. Thanks in advance.

    The deer was shot through the top of the shoulders at 60 yards, the bullet exited.

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    The hog was shot a little far back at around 20 yards, I don't know if it exited because I didn't check at the time for a second hole.

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  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 11,103 Senior Member
    I am good with that, I have been wanting to try my GP100 on a whitetail, I just like the results from my 300WM and am hesitant to switch. That is a pale whitetail, is it just the lighting and the camera?
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
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