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Nomadac
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Obama Amnesty Plan: Catch, Release, Vote
Nomadac
Posts: 902 Senior Member
Obama Details New Immigration Policy, But Skepticism Remains
Read more at http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2012/06/15/obama-details-new-immigration-plan-but-skepticism-abound/
It appears that Obama is getting panicky about his reelection and doing everything he can to secure votes from special groups. Appears like just another Dream Act with a different twist. What do you think?
Read more at http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2012/06/15/obama-details-new-immigration-plan-but-skepticism-abound/
It appears that Obama is getting panicky about his reelection and doing everything he can to secure votes from special groups. Appears like just another Dream Act with a different twist. What do you think?
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I think he just gave himself a huge boost towards a second term.............Ken
I have worked with several "Jake" "Jason" and "John"s who were collecting all kinds of SS benefits on top of working tax free. Call me what you want but ANYONE in this country illigally is ruining the place and needs to get das boot like right frikkin now!
Is there nothing that this jerk does that you won't defend with your leftist rationalizations? And beyond that, what promise has he ever kept, anyway, to anyone that has ever made a deal with him? He will throw these people under the bus just as quickly as he will anyone else who has kept their part of a deal and is waiting for him to deliver on his part of it. All he needs out of this deal is a very public debate in which the media can demonize Republicans until the election...after which he will no longer care. The media will drop the story like a hot potato and the whole thing will just go away until it needs to be resurrected for some other political manipulation. If this jerk wins, he won't even pretend to give a damn about any law that stands in the way of his ideological goals.
Do you really believe anybody could be less suitable for the job than him?
How about we just insist that whoever we elect enforce the immigration laws? And before you drag out your talking points list of all the other politicians who have done similar, just understand - it's getting very late - and people are waking up to the realization that this country has been dismantled, incrementally by these 'acts of kindness' that supposedly don't really hurt anything.
Then they have been here long enough to familiarize themselves with our system of immigration and correct their illegal status, there must be a reason they have not done this, $. You assume all of the illegals are going to line up for citizenship.
As for Obama being behind immigration reform, hell, his own uncle was in this country illegally. Living off food stamps in government provided housing. But I guess it would be cheaper to make him a citizen so he can continue to leach off the system instead of pulling him off of uncle Sams nipple 20 years ago like what should have happened....
I'm sorry, I don't care how good of a person you are, illegal is illegal. Get out of my country and come back in the legal way.
To say anything different labels one a Bigot.
No alpha. Ignorance of the law has never been an excuse. In the case of children, their parents are responsible, and should be held responsible. Once the kids get old enough, they should realize they are here illegally. Hey, I'm trying to get a job and don't have a SSN. I wonder why that is? Once they are old enough to figure that out, and they choose to stay, they are criminals. They are no better than their parents that are sucking the life out of this country.
False...have you ever heard the phrase "Ignorance of the law is no excuse?"
That being said... I could probably swallow some of this....IF...the right to vote were were not attached to it. Be here, work, pay taxes, etc,,,but until you are a bona fide citizen you do NOT get to vote...
Also..honorable service in the military should be a direct path to citizenship...
You also talk about a lack of resources to kick them out. In the long run, it is cheaper to kick them out right now. But we as Americans just want the cheap now solution, and in the case of liberals, more potential votes.
Jerry
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I agree, and combine it with a better approach to enforcing existing immigration laws and going back to the paths to citizenship that built this country. I have absolutely no problem with immigrants who want to become Americans because of the freedoms and opportunities that exist here, as long as those freedoms and opportunities don't come at the expense of existing legal citizens.
Why is it so difficult for libs to understand this?
Edit..by 'more voice' I mean lets have NBC/ABC/CBS/MSNBC, etc. do a story on a few Hispanic families that have earned their keep playing by all of the right rules...and through sacrifice/hard work have made something for themselves....and not real fond of all this amnesty BS.
Ain't gonna happen.
Since immigration courts are loathe to 'break up families' with deportation, what he has done is told illegals with kids that they have nothing to fear. They are not going to deport a 10 year old, but they also are not going to toss the parents out of the county and leave the kid on his own
The illegals know this. We are the ones who are dumb enough to not realize it
-Mikhail Kalashnikov
The 'old' style liberals were capable of understanding logical solutions to problems, and mostly just wanted a 'kinder,' less rigid process of solving such problems, so as to make it more possible for more 'underprivileged' folks. This was reasonable and they could be compromised with, by well meaning conservatives.
But, these liberals are dead and gone, and liberalism has transformed, over time, into something that more closely resembles European style socialism, or for some of the more radical types, outright communism. The 'love of country' that still guided the old style liberals has been replaced by a hardcore, win-at-all costs dash toward an all-controlling government.
Today's liberals actually do understand the real solutions that will preserve our economy and not so blatantly fly in the face of tradition...they just don't give a damn, because it isn't what they want. They want the USA knocked down to the level of mediocrity that most of the rest of the world 'enjoys,' because they want government in charge of everything...with themselves being the government.
It is a redefiniton of 'anchor baby'.....
Actually, it's the exact same thing- - - -the anchor babies who kept the illegal parents here in the first place have just grown up. We're dealing with 2nd. and 3rd. generation illegals the same way we're experiencing 2 and 3 generation welfare families.
Jerry
Obama is either a moron or actively working against US laws and law enforcement.
-Mikhail Kalashnikov
X2 it was also working in AZ until the Justice Dept. got involved.
I guess Home burglars and Home Invaders are just uninvited guests and not Criminals by Alpha's definition. :roll:
― Douglas Adams
Sources? Mind you, I am not disagreeing, but I wonder how we get an accurate accounting of folks who are here illegaly? And, if we are able to get an accurate accounting of said peoples, how is it that-since we know who and where they are due to that accurate accounting-we aren't able to efficiently evict them? Sounds like the heavy lifting has already been done....
George Carlin
And my beef is not, nor has it ever been with any legal Latinos. It is the ones that are here illegally that my problem is with. It doesn't matter what the ratio is, the ones that are here are too much.
Tonight Bill O'Reilly made a big point about Obama's new immigration "regulations". He stated quite strongly that Obama's directive is UNCONSTITUTIONAL, period. Obama has bypassed Congress and created his own law. Nowhere does the president have the authority to make any changes in immigration law. In fact, Fox showed a tape of Obama saying just that some time ago.
It's all politics, folks, concerning the latino vote. Marco Rubio has been completely upstaged with the immigration plan he's been working on. Obama wants to "revitalize" the Latinos for the election.
Incidentally, the libs are saying that if you oppose Obama, it's because you're a racist.
Let's see if O'Reilly can get something going on this usurping of the Constitutional powers of Congress by the president.