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  • sakodudesakodude Senior Member Posts: 3,269 Senior Member
    jbohio wrote: »
    There are 30 left overs for 54. Code EF05402R.

    Thanks, saw that on the link Jerry posted. Still need to wait and see how things at work are going to shake out.


    Sako
  • MileHighShooterMileHighShooter Senior Member Posts: 4,768 Senior Member
    jbohio wrote: »
    Cool. Will do.

    Lost Lake is off CR 12, in the northern end of 54, about half way between Paonia and Crested Butte.

    I think he's gonna work south and east from there, see how far he can get back in there. He's using a 4 wheeler for now, trying the different county roads, and forest service roads. Once he finds something he really likes, he'll probably take horses so he go back in there wherever he wants.


    I have been searching other forums for 54 info (lots of it out there....be prepped to see a lot of orange vests, methinks) and I keep coming across Soap Basin, West Elk Wilderness, and West Elk Creek. I do believe the Wilderness is a tough spot for most to get into on foot, the dedicated could probably get in. Getting animals OUT though...on foot, it seems, may take a few people a few days.

    Working from the Crested Butte side down is probably a good idea. Seems like a lot of the pressure is going to be on the Eastern/Southern portions of the unit. I'm most interested in finding a camp spot as deep as we can get with trucks/SUV's, and then going even deeper from there.
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Once again, please refrain from cutting short any baseless totally emotional arguments with facts. It leads to boring, completely objective conversations well beyond the comprehension ability of many.
  • MileHighShooterMileHighShooter Senior Member Posts: 4,768 Senior Member
    jbohio wrote: »
    There are 30 left overs for 54. Code EF05402R.

    Where did you find the left over results for 2012? I can't seem to locate any. LO's go on sale Aug 14, I did find that.
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Once again, please refrain from cutting short any baseless totally emotional arguments with facts. It leads to boring, completely objective conversations well beyond the comprehension ability of many.
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 10,919 Senior Member
    I have been searching other forums for 54 info (lots of it out there....be prepped to see a lot of orange vests, methinks) and I keep coming across Soap Basin, West Elk Wilderness, and West Elk Creek. I do believe the Wilderness is a tough spot for most to get into on foot, the dedicated could probably get in. Getting animals OUT though...on foot, it seems, may take a few people a few days.

    Working from the Crested Butte side down is probably a good idea. Seems like a lot of the pressure is going to be on the Eastern/Southern portions of the unit. I'm most interested in finding a camp spot as deep as we can get with trucks/SUV's, and then going even deeper from there.

    I have not been doing alot of research with the links you sent me, let me know if you want me studying the above areas or if you are still in the research mode also.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • MileHighShooterMileHighShooter Senior Member Posts: 4,768 Senior Member
    Well until I can get my car sold and acquire myself a truck/suv, I can't go up and take a gander at the area even though its only about 4 hours away. Hopefully I can get that taken care of within a month and I'll try to be up there as much as possible, along with JB's FIL to check out the areas. I just have a feeling the biggest pressure is naturally going to be in the easiest to access areas, and that at least from the map, looks like the southern and eastern edges. Of course, weather is going to play the ultimate factor for us, period. If it happens to snow up to the hips, then the elk just might be down lower on the S/E sides and there could be plenty to go around. If it is warmer they will not have moved out of the high country yet. Even if it snows, that doesn't mean the elk will move either. Has to be pretty significant to get those critters to budge from the high country.

    Cows and younger bulls will probably be a bit lower, I have been told to focus on the 8500ft mark and go from there, plenty of that in the areas I have mentioned above. The BIG bulls (and they are there) are going to be in dark, remote and quiet places where they do nothing but eat and sleep. In 2nd season they will most likely be about a month of the main rut period, and will probably be weak and tired from fighting, running, and worrying about their harem for 4 weeks straight. BUT...lots of buts here, if the rest of this summer pans out like its looking to be, which is long and hot, the rut COULD get pushed back a few weeks and then we might be hunting just a week or two after the rut, and possibly some bulls still "in the mood". Granted these will be "lesser" bulls still trying to get the girls, kind of like trolling the bar 30 minutes before closing time, take what you can get kind of situation. If this is the case, the biggest bulls are going to be near impossible to find. Just a few weeks after the rut and they will likely be up and above 10k (unit goes to 13K), holding up in dark timber next to hidden meadows where they can see anything coming for miles around.
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Once again, please refrain from cutting short any baseless totally emotional arguments with facts. It leads to boring, completely objective conversations well beyond the comprehension ability of many.
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 10,919 Senior Member
    I will start researching, sounds like I should start looking for an oxygen tank for me to use and a cattle prod for you to use:jester:. If there is snow in the moutains, does the timber shield the snowfall at all to make the walking easier than in the meadows?
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,508 Senior Member
    I have been searching other forums for 54 info (lots of it out there....be prepped to see a lot of orange vests, methinks) and I keep coming across Soap Basin, West Elk Wilderness, and West Elk Creek. I do believe the Wilderness is a tough spot for most to get into on foot, the dedicated could probably get in. Getting animals OUT though...on foot, it seems, may take a few people a few days.

    Working from the Crested Butte side down is probably a good idea. Seems like a lot of the pressure is going to be on the Eastern/Southern portions of the unit. I'm most interested in finding a camp spot as deep as we can get with trucks/SUV's, and then going even deeper from there.

    Yep. He's starting kinda on the NW corner, and gonna work West and south, see how far he can get in there with the truck. BUT, that's pretty much in the heart of West Elk.
    Did I mention that I've always wanted to hunt West Elk?

    Either way, my FIL will be looking for a not too steep patch of ground, off the beaten track as far as he can get, and he'll most likely go up a few days before season to secure our agreed up camp spot, if you guys want. The last couple times, he had been up a few days before I ever got there, making camp, and making sure everyone else knew the area was covered.

    He's game for a scouting partner, whenever you're ready.
  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,508 Senior Member
    Where did you find the left over results for 2012? I can't seem to locate any. LO's go on sale Aug 14, I did find that.


    Off Jerry's link, and a WHOLE bunch of scrolling.
  • MileHighShooterMileHighShooter Senior Member Posts: 4,768 Senior Member
    CHIRO1989 wrote: »
    I will start researching, sounds like I should start looking for an oxygen tank for me to use and a cattle prod for you to use:jester:. If there is snow in the moutains, does the timber shield the snowfall at all to make the walking easier than in the meadows?


    LMAO :roll2::roll2::roll2:


    Oh wait...you were serious, weren't you? Short answer...not really. Maybe a bit, but no, not really. Deep snow sucks whether it be in the darkest of timber or on a bald face of a cliff. We will watch the weather VERY closely before and during the hunt, it would not be unreasonable to think that it could snow bad enough to put us in a very serious situation very quickly if we were to get stuck at camp way in deep. Thing about Colorado weather is, it happens FAST. I have seen it pour down well over a foot from sundown to sun-up in the mountains.

    Also, I like the cattle prod idea. In fact, one of the mods should find a cattle prod smiley face!
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Once again, please refrain from cutting short any baseless totally emotional arguments with facts. It leads to boring, completely objective conversations well beyond the comprehension ability of many.
  • MileHighShooterMileHighShooter Senior Member Posts: 4,768 Senior Member
    jbohio wrote: »
    Yep. He's starting kinda on the NW corner, and gonna work West and south, see how far he can get in there with the truck. BUT, that's pretty much in the heart of West Elk.
    Did I mention that I've always wanted to hunt West Elk?

    Either way, my FIL will be looking for a not too steep patch of ground, off the beaten track as far as he can get, and he'll most likely go up a few days before season to secure our agreed up camp spot, if you guys want. The last couple times, he had been up a few days before I ever got there, making camp, and making sure everyone else knew the area was covered.

    He's game for a scouting partner, whenever you're ready.

    That is a relief to know he might make it up before the season starts to pee on a few trees to mark out territory. I was getting a bit worried about that. Since I normally hunt from a cabin in the same place I have never had to deal with fighting for a spot. Would piss me off something fierce to find some great campsite for an epic hunting adventure only to get up there to make camp and someone else already has an RV or something parked there.

    I'm working on getting my vehicle situation changed, much sooner then later (I hope). Once that is done I'll be heading up there as much as I can. Hoping I can get in at least 4-5 scouting trips. I'll get in contact with him when that all starts falling into place.

    I'm pretty stoked about WEW as well, bout time I made a "real" elk hunt
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Once again, please refrain from cutting short any baseless totally emotional arguments with facts. It leads to boring, completely objective conversations well beyond the comprehension ability of many.
  • sakodudesakodude Senior Member Posts: 3,269 Senior Member
    LMAO :roll2::roll2::roll2:


    Oh wait...you were serious, weren't you? Short answer...not really. Maybe a bit, but no, not really. Deep snow sucks whether it be in the darkest of timber or on a bald face of a cliff. We will watch the weather VERY closely before and during the hunt, it would not be unreasonable to think that it could snow bad enough to put us in a very serious situation very quickly if we were to get stuck at camp way in deep. Thing about Colorado weather is, it happens FAST. I have seen it pour down well over a foot from sundown to sun-up in the mountains.
    Also, I like the cattle prod idea. In fact, one of the mods should find a cattle prod smiley face!

    Been there, done that. Two nights in a row AAMOF. spent both nights getting up every hour or so knocking the snow off of the tent to prevent collapse. We decided to get off the montain on day 3 of this storm and it was a sruggle to go down hill with chains on all four corners. Met a county sheriff who was escorting a county road grader up the forest service road on the way down. They were requesting that everyone get off the mountain or risk getting stranded. Needless to say, no elk that year.

    Sako
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 10,919 Senior Member
    LMAO :roll2::roll2::roll2:


    Oh wait...you were serious, weren't you? Short answer...not really. Maybe a bit, but no, not really. Deep snow sucks whether it be in the darkest of timber or on a bald face of a cliff. We will watch the weather VERY closely before and during the hunt, it would not be unreasonable to think that it could snow bad enough to put us in a very serious situation very quickly if we were to get stuck at camp way in deep. Thing about Colorado weather is, it happens FAST. I have seen it pour down well over a foot from sundown to sun-up in the mountains.

    Also, I like the cattle prod idea. In fact, one of the mods should find a cattle prod smiley face!

    1/2 serious, I was mostly wondering about how the snow drifts with the wind on a mountain slope, you can get on a treeline/windbreak on the flatland around me and there is usually some OK walking if you pick your path, we do some high stepping in snow for late season pheasants. I see I need to add tire chains to my list.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,508 Senior Member
    That is a relief to know he might make it up before the season starts to pee on a few trees to mark out territory. I was getting a bit worried about that. Since I normally hunt from a cabin in the same place I have never had to deal with fighting for a spot. Would piss me off something fierce to find some great campsite for an epic hunting adventure only to get up there to make camp and someone else already has an RV or something parked there.

    I'm working on getting my vehicle situation changed, much sooner then later (I hope). Once that is done I'll be heading up there as much as I can. Hoping I can get in at least 4-5 scouting trips. I'll get in contact with him when that all starts falling into place.

    I'm pretty stoked about WEW as well, bout time I made a "real" elk hunt

    I talked with him more today, the Lost Lake area has an improved campground at the end of the road, a major trail head, etc.

    Probably not where we want to be. He's going up again maybe next weekend, gonna work west from there, south of 12, checking out the forest service roads, logging trails, county roads, etc. He said he'd be more than happy to go up a few days ahead of time, and make camp.

    I'm not sure when I'll make it out there, but I'd kinda like to get there a day or two early, get the lay of the land, before the shooting starts.
  • sakodudesakodude Senior Member Posts: 3,269 Senior Member
    CHIRO1989 wrote: »
    1/2 serious, I was mostly wondering about how the snow drifts with the wind on a mountain slope, you can get on a treeline/windbreak on the flatland around me and there is usually some OK walking if you pick your path, we do some high stepping in snow for late season pheasants. I see I need to add tire chains to my list.

    Top of the ridge can be blown nearly clear but step off on the downwind side and you could be up to your armpits. Another leason Learned the hard way.

    Sako
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 10,919 Senior Member
    sakodude wrote: »
    Top of the ridge can be blown nearly clear but step off on the downwind side and you could be up to your armpits. Another leason Learned the hard way.

    Sako

    Looking forward to the hunt:up:.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • sakodudesakodude Senior Member Posts: 3,269 Senior Member
    Keep in mind my adventures/mis-adventures occured back when there were only three seasons and I always hunted the last one which generally ran last weekend in Oct/first weekend of Nov during the 80's and 90's. Snow was a given rather than a variable. The last couple of years before I moved (04-05 ) I hunted second rifle and both years it was dry as a bone. Dust masks were required to use our atv's without choking.
    second rifle can be a real crap shoot weather wise. Come prepared for snow, both hunter and vehicle (think chians for good measure) but also for warm and dry.( lots of water ) not only for drinking but getting the dust off from time to time. One of our group had one of those solar showers that was quite handy after a couple of days in the dust.
    I'm making myself homesick. Sure hope it works out that I can participate in this grand adventure this year.

    Sako
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