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SirGeorgeKillianSirGeorgeKillian Posts: 5,463 Senior Member
Unless life also hands you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck!
Wambli Ska wrote: »
I'm in love with a Glock

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  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Posts: 12,428 Senior Member
    Wow. That was random.
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  • bobbyrlf3bobbyrlf3 Posts: 2,614 Senior Member
    Ummmmm......................:uhm:
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  • SirGeorgeKillianSirGeorgeKillian Posts: 5,463 Senior Member
    By the end I was expecting a unicorn to pop out....
    Unless life also hands you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck!
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    I'm in love with a Glock
  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
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    Both random and unexpected..... :confused:
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • SirGeorgeKillianSirGeorgeKillian Posts: 5,463 Senior Member
    Here is a much longer version. Skip to the 3:00 mark for the good part. Happened here in good ol SC!

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5fe_1345030088
    Unless life also hands you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck!
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    I'm in love with a Glock
  • SirGeorgeKillianSirGeorgeKillian Posts: 5,463 Senior Member
    Leg shots can be fatal quick. You got a mighty big artery running through each one.
    Unless life also hands you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck!
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    I'm in love with a Glock
  • EliEli Posts: 3,074 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    ....the guy walking down the middle of a highgway in a sunny day with an open umbrella....


    "A spoon full of sugar makes the medicine go down."
  • RazorbackerRazorbacker Posts: 4,646 Senior Member
    Here is a much longer version. Skip to the 3:00 mark for the good part. Happened here in good ol SC!

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5fe_1345030088

    Okay, I watched the first shorter one earlier today and now I've watched this longer one twice. A few things, this cop is very lucky. If the BG had waited til he was past the cop to attack, things could have turned out very differently. Also, at PBR he hit him in the leg?
    I'm not judging the cop harshly. This situation developed very quickly. I guess things like this are like landing an airplane. Any one you walk away from is a good one and I'm glad he'll sleep safely in his own bed tonight.
    To Wambli's question about intensive care, I'm guessing but the way the BG dropped like a sack of potatoes he was hit in the femur. May have even nicked his femoral artery.
    I must say I was impressed with the cop's reaction after the shooting. He seemed very calm and just did his job. At about the 7 minute mark I'm sure the citizen was saying, "Looks like I picked a bad day to quit smoking" lol
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  • SirGeorgeKillianSirGeorgeKillian Posts: 5,463 Senior Member
    I wanna know if the guy got a ticket or not....
    Unless life also hands you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck!
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    I'm in love with a Glock
  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    "Also interesting the guy is shot in the leg but is in Intensive Care???"

    Complications, infection, fatty embolism etc.....
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    I wanna know if the guy got a ticket or not....

    Perhaps, I am sure there were skid marks too......
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • bobbyrlf3bobbyrlf3 Posts: 2,614 Senior Member
    They assailant dropped a lot quicker than I've seen others go down when shot. I find that very interesting, since we talk a lot about bullet/caliber effectiveness.
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  • SirGeorgeKillianSirGeorgeKillian Posts: 5,463 Senior Member
    bobbyrlf3 wrote: »
    They assailant dropped a lot quicker than I've seen others go down when shot. I find that very interesting, since we talk a lot about bullet/caliber effectiveness.

    That tends to happen when you get shot in both legs at the same time. Kinda leaves you without a leg to stand on so to speak :tooth:
    Unless life also hands you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck!
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    I'm in love with a Glock
  • SlanteyedshootistSlanteyedshootist Posts: 3,947 Senior Member
    Umbrella Man seems to have a history of randomly attacking LEOs. Maybe they should put him away for good.
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  • RazorbackerRazorbacker Posts: 4,646 Senior Member
    Umbrella Man seems to have a history of randomly attacking LEOs. Maybe they should put him away for good.

    Yeah, I read the article too. Here, the charge would undoubtedly be attempted Capital Felony murder. He'd get a mental evaluation at taxpayer expense. The dashcam is dead bang evidence of guilt. the state's head shrinkers would say, yes, he's a nut but competent to stand trial. Court appointed defense will say he's too much of a nut to know right from wrong and further more he lacks the capacity to plan the crime.
    Evidence would be introduced that his mother was addicted to crack and an unknown boyfriend of hers hit this guy in the head as an infant. Then we'd be told he bounced around the foster care system where he was abused.
    A distant cousin would testify that he'd turned his life around and was shocked at this incident. A pastor would testify at the sentencing hearing that he'd been mentoring him since his incarceration.
    About 3 years from today jury selection would begin. He'd eventually be found guilty but the judge would order him sent to the nervous hospital.

    A few years later one of two scenarios would play out. Either he'd murder a social worker at the nervous hospital and be found guilty of murder. Or some doctor would say he's safe as long as he takes his meds and should be paroled. Shortly after being paroled he'd kill a cop.
    He'd get the needle this time. Approximately 18 years later after the appeals process had played itself out with assistance from the ACLU and the Southern Poverty Law Center he'd ride the needle while crowds outside the prison held candle lite vigils.

    This is assuming of course that some governor didn't commute his sentence in the meantime. Despite the fact that he'd tried to kill prison guards in the meantime.
    And we're a fairly conservative state.

    The liberal experiment has failed.
    Teach your children to love guns, they'll never be able to afford drugs
  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    The reason why one should endeavor to aim for centermass, legs are just too iffy.....
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • TeachTeach Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    The shot probably hit at least one femur. If it was a hollowpoint, it most likely did some major damage. It's hard to stand up when that bone is compromised- - - - -the pain alone would make most people collapse.
    Jerry
  • bobbyrlf3bobbyrlf3 Posts: 2,614 Senior Member
    That tends to happen when you get shot in both legs at the same time. Kinda leaves you without a leg to stand on so to speak :tooth:

    Building on your premise, I wonder about what difference it could make to have an assailant hit in a lower extremity rather than the torso, with respect to incapacitation. Granted, just because you can't stand doesn't mean you're out of a gunfight, but an assailant with a knife (as in this case) or other weapon would be effectively stopped, yet we've all seen stories of cases where an assailant sustains multiple torso/upper extremity shots and keeps coming.

    One case isn't enough to bolster a hypothesis, but if anyone here has a case they can remember that speaks to this, it may give some perspective.
    Knowledge is essential to living freely and fully; understanding gives knowledge purpose and strength; wisdom is combining the two and applying them appropriately in words and actions.
  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Posts: 10,939 Senior Member
    bobbyrlf3 wrote: »
    Building on your premise, I wonder about what difference it could make to have an assailant hit in a lower extremity rather than the torso, with respect to incapacitation. Granted, just because you can't stand doesn't mean you're out of a gunfight, but an assailant with a knife (as in this case) or other weapon would be effectively stopped, yet we've all seen stories of cases where an assailant sustains multiple torso/upper extremity shots and keeps coming.

    One case isn't enough to bolster a hypothesis, but if anyone here has a case they can remember that speaks to this, it may give some perspective.

    The pelvis is supposed to be a quick incapacititator, but I wouldn't aim for anything but center mass. A head shot would incapacitate the quickest, but it is much harder to hit someone in the head (bobs and weaves to much). The leg would also be harder to hit. Go for the highest percentage shot.

    That cop is kucky. The crazy guy announced his plan before he leapt foward. If he had kept his mouth shut, I think the LEO would have an extra hole in him
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  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    You have to admit that is one lucky psycho guy, how many more Police Officers will he try to murder before his number is finally up ?????
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Posts: 12,428 Senior Member
    Always expect the unexpected!

    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • 30-30shooter30-30shooter Posts: 224 Member
    bullsi1911 wrote: »

    now that is funny
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  • bisleybisley Posts: 10,815 Senior Member
    Yeah, I read the article too. Here, the charge would undoubtedly be attempted Capital Felony murder. He'd get a mental evaluation at taxpayer expense. The dashcam is dead bang evidence of guilt. the state's head shrinkers would say, yes, he's a nut but competent to stand trial. Court appointed defense will say he's too much of a nut to know right from wrong and further more he lacks the capacity to plan the crime.
    Evidence would be introduced that his mother was addicted to crack and an unknown boyfriend of hers hit this guy in the head as an infant. Then we'd be told he bounced around the foster care system where he was abused.
    A distant cousin would testify that he'd turned his life around and was shocked at this incident. A pastor would testify at the sentencing hearing that he'd been mentoring him since his incarceration.
    About 3 years from today jury selection would begin. He'd eventually be found guilty but the judge would order him sent to the nervous hospital.

    A few years later one of two scenarios would play out. Either he'd murder a social worker at the nervous hospital and be found guilty of murder. Or some doctor would say he's safe as long as he takes his meds and should be paroled. Shortly after being paroled he'd kill a cop.
    He'd get the needle this time. Approximately 18 years later after the appeals process had played itself out with assistance from the ACLU and the Southern Poverty Law Center he'd ride the needle while crowds outside the prison held candle lite vigils.

    This is assuming of course that some governor didn't commute his sentence in the meantime. Despite the fact that he'd tried to kill prison guards in the meantime.
    And we're a fairly conservative state.

    The liberal experiment has failed.

    Excellent evaluation. Texas has not quite yet descended to that level, but we are probably only one Clinton-like governor away from it.
  • DanChamberlainDanChamberlain Posts: 3,395 Senior Member
    The guy wanted to be shot. He had all the time in the world to stab the officer. He pulled the knife and made a move then hesitated and said "Cmon" as if to say, let's get it on!

    Dan
    It's a source of great pride for me, that when my name is googled, one finds book titles and not mug shots. Daniel C. Chamberlain
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