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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,578 Senior Member
    Snip the barrel behind the ports. Ive run across many reports from many forums, most more actual hunting focused than just shooting. Seems to be about 1 o ut of 4-5 that regret going short with a 338. The rest all prefer em a bit shorter running the 250gr bullet. Bam, you got a long range and thick cover duo in the RUM and the 338. Worse that happens is you dont like it. an are worse problems to have. You can always put another barrel on next year if you dont like the snubby. No need to spend way too much either for a hunting rifle.

    He already traded the Howa. Which, I think, was the right thing to do.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    JB-- Now that I thunk it, that tang safety Ruger is my .338's Win mag's twin. You have shot mine before so you know what you are getting into. Freaking copycat!!! That one is my back up rifle for deer this year.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    Linefinder wrote: »
    I'm a big, big believer in brakes.

    I think porting, OTOH, is about the dumbest idea to ever hit the market. Any market.

    Mike

    I think it has a use in target handguns and target shotguns. Other than that, I agree with you. IF I were to get it done, I would only let one place do the work... Magnaport! If someone else did the work, I would not trust it at all.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,615 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    JB-- Now that I thunk it, that tang safety Ruger is my .338's Win mag's twin. You have shot mine before so you know what you are getting into. Freaking copycat!!! That one is my back up rifle for deer this year.

    I think mine has a little more "character". It looks like it's been carried a lot, shot very little.
  • MileHighShooterMileHighShooter Senior Member Posts: 4,982 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    He already traded the Howa. Which, I think, was the right thing to do.

    Didn't catch that part!
  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    The location of the ports may be off too, that will cause problems,
    I also say cut and re-crown, also consider what that rifle is worth, it may be worth a re-barrel or not, something to consider in any case...
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,615 Senior Member
    DoctorWho wrote: »
    also consider what that rifle is worth, it may be worth a re-barrel or not, something to consider in any case...

    That's what it came down to. The used Ruger might not be any better. But, I decided that if I'm going to be rebarreling or otherwise improving a rifle, I'd much rather have the Ruger. A big plus is that it sits in a pretty piece of walnut, rather than that flimsy Hogue.
  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,615 Senior Member
    I might as well let you guys have a laugh.
    So, I got rained out yesterday, headed straight for the LGS. Already had the Howa in the truck. We make the deal on the Ruger, I take a beating on the Howa. It takes them quite a while to switch the scopes.
    I run home, clean the Ruger. It was badly copper fouled, so that takes forever. Meanwhile, I'm loading up a whole new series of loads for it. Phone's ringing, dogs are misbehaving. Takes forever. Finally get done, jam the rifle in a case, grab my range bags, I'm off to the range. I knew I'd only have an hour to shoot, but, it's better than nothing. Drive the hour to get there, sign in, I'm the only one there. Get my target stand up, all my stuff out, rifle out, sit it on the rest. Sit down, get settled in, grab a round. The RO (new, young guy, really cool dude) is right there, watching. I reach for the bolt, and come up empty. NO BOLT!!

    I left it on the bench. At home. :head::head:

    I always take a .22 to shoot while rifles are cooling, so at least it wasn't a total loss.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,578 Senior Member
    :bang:
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,615 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Looks like i didnt have to tell...

    I didn't want you to have the burden of keeping a secret...
    (orholdiingitovermyhead)
  • snake284-1snake284-1 Senior Member Posts: 2,500 Senior Member
    jbohio wrote: »
    http://www.americanhunter.org/articles/gun-elk-cartridges/
    I don't know a whole lot about killing elk, but there are a lot of writers that do. This article is pretty much sums up the conventional wisdom. Going by his theories, a 30-06 is out of gas at 275 yards.

    Two things; First, you're completely correct. I am way out of touch with bow hunting. But I am also very suspicious of it. As I said, I watch all these shows on Sportsmans Channel and Pursuit and I haven't seen but one DRT shot with a bow. I hate to see deer run after being shot. As for 60 yards, that sounds like an eternity for a bow to me. But as I said, what do I know?

    Now, as far as Towsley's article, he sounded like the 30-06 would make the kill at 300 yards, even though it's on his personal border line. I also took it to mean that if you have a really good bullet, a 30-06 is very capable of making that shot. If that's what I had, I would take the shot. However, as I said in that post, I would probably leave the 30-06 at home for the elk hunt because I now have two of what I call elk guns. He sets the bottom limit at .308 caliber. But I would think a 7 Mag with a good bullet would kill elk at more than 300 yards. But then again, what do I know? I've never been elk hunting in my life.

    However, Reading his article he seems to be like Elmer Keith. If a little bit will be a little good, a lot will do a whole lot of good. And he paints a dismal picture for this hunt. For one thing, I'm not going to save for five years to go hunting anything. And secondly, If I think I might wound an animal, I'll probably let it live to fight another day. I've done it before and I'll do it again. I set my limits on what I'll do and I try to stick to them.
    I'm Just a Radical Right Wing Nutt Job, Trying to Help Save My Country!
  • VarmintmistVarmintmist Senior Member Posts: 8,007 Senior Member
    You will never see DRT with a bow, except as a extreme exception. Arrows kill by incision, clean sharp cuts that cause massive bleeding. Until the animal bleeds out, it is going to be able to run. For the most part they run for a bit, then lay down and die. A deer can cover a lot of ground in 15 seconds if it gets pushed. The SMART thing to do after you hit it is wait, for a hour or more. If that means you track with flashlights, then you track with flashlights.
    It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.
  • MileHighShooterMileHighShooter Senior Member Posts: 4,982 Senior Member
    Snake I'd be confident with a 7mm Rem Mag out to 350-400 with a good bullet without question.

    Over on another site, a few elk guides all pretty much agreed though, that the 7mm Rem Mag and 300 Wby have accounted for more wounded elk in their experience then other cartridges. Comes down to guys thinking they need more power then their deer rifles have, and not being able to shoot them well. Or, they get a false sense of confidence because well, they've got a magnum! I have seen this myself personally with 2 guys I hunt with, in both those calibers. Exact same scenario....going elk hunting, need a bigger gun, buy a light 300 Wby, can't shoot it. Spend a day and a half tracking animals with help from the camp. He ended up getting a brake and improved his shooting greatly. Funny thing is the first year he came up with us, he had no problems killing an elk with trusty 30-06. My uncle's wife bought him the 7mm, wasn't his choice, but his 06 was a piece of junk (Rem 742) that jammed about every 3rd shot without fail lol. She went to a gun store in Houston, said my husband needs an elk rifle and I want to buy him something nice, she left with a 7mm Rem A-bolt.

    Now the real gun nuts like you find around here or on many hunting sites, handle these guns just fine. But like I always say, we are the minority in the hunting world.
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