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splangeland
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Rossi .223 hand loads?
Hey guys, my cousin just bought the Lee Breech Lock reloading kit. He told me if buy all my crap I can use his press whenever I want, right now I have nothing except a coffee can full of spent brass. Neither of us have ever done this before so I've got a few questions. Right now my head is spinning trying to figure this all out. How do I tinker with a load to get better accuracy? One person told me the main variant was how deep the bullet was seated, while another person said you always have the same overall length its just a matter of different bullet and powder combinations. The guy we talked to today said to just simply put a factory loaded round in there and use that to set the length, is that acceptable or do I need to bust out the caliper? Next, the die set my cousin bought for his .243 came with something to cut the case to the right length, how often do I need to do that and whats the best way? I am also assuming that brass is just like shot shells where each brand is different, do I need to sort all my brass out or will it effect my accuracy if I load up a bunch of rounds in different brands of brass? I am looking at buying Nosler Varmageddon 40gr bullets since MidwayUSA has them on sale right now and I've been told that with the 1:12 twist that Rossi has lighter is better. Does anybody have any loads that worked good in the R223MB?My cousin is reloading .243 simply because its cheaper, and we've got a few shells loaded up but havn't shot any yet. Me on the other hand, I want better accuracy since my guns sucks but also want to keep it cheap. Any info would be awesome! My head hurts right now trying to get this all figured out. Thanks, Spencer
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You really NEED to understand this better - a good manual will save you a ton of money in the long run if only from not buying a lot of unnecessary junk....it will also help you in not turning your rifle into a pipe bomb... Accumulate some basic knowledge and then get back with us for specific stuff.....ask before you buy...
By that last statement, I mean you need to know what you are doing here, understand what it is you are doing. There is a lot more to reloading than putting stuff together. Reloading can be extremely dangerous if you skip the fundamentals and try to jump to the doing part. That is like handing a 10 year old boy a gun with absolutely no instruction and saying go have fun!
Please, please, please buy a manual, read it several times then proceed. If you have any questions, please ask first. It's too late once you pull the trigger! Things like a high primer can cause slam fires, not to mention what happens if you double charge a case ect.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001YB68SC/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8
http://forums.gunsandammo.com/showthread.php?9831-For-GENERAL-reloading-info-which-manual
This way you can buy bullets/die set with what you saved.
There is a minimum order of 40-45 bucks, but S&H is only $4.99.
http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/22441
But read and read some more, plus watch videos on You-tube and ask questions before you attempt your first reload. It is imperative you comprehend the basics and know how all the components interact/influence each other in a cartridge before you get started reloading.
Good luck.
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All of the above comments are dead on - learn some more and understand what you are doing before you start assembling cartridges.
One of the things you should try to understand is the 'accuracy' thing. Accuracy is a function of the precision of your equipment, combined with your personal shooting ability. To find the most precise load for your rifle, you have eliminate as many of the human variables as you possibly can.
I have no experience with Rossi rifles, but I have owned a lot of low-end rifles, some of which were good shooters. The precision of the rifle could actually be improved on the good shooters by finding the right bullet and charge for it, and by setting the bullet the right distance from the lands. But what I have found is that low-end rifles nearly always have heavy, crunchy triggers, and you have to either learn to compensate for that hindrance to accurate shooting, or improve the trigger, before you can realize any improvements with hand loads.
All I'm saying is that you need to make sure that you and the rifle are ready for a customized load, because if they are not, you may never come up with anything that really helps your shooting accuracy.
You can start here and get a better idea of what you need to do and then get that Reloading Manual ASAP.
http://www.lymanproducts.com/lyman/presses-and-kits/pdf/IntroToReloading.pdf
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