Cracked Stock

Wheelsman56Wheelsman56 MemberPosts: 225 Member
So I have found myself in an unfortunate situation. I loaned one of my hunting rifles (my prized CZ 550) to a friend who was hunting with me. Well, in some rough terrain the sling slipped off their shoulder and they dropped it. Scope is fine, thank goodness because it is a brand new Leupold VX-II, but the stock cracked at the wrist right behind the action screw.

It is a pretty serious crack, running from either side of the action screw back into the grip/wrist area. How can I go about getting this fixed? Is this something pretty much any gunsmith will be able to deal with, or will I need to look into a replacement stock? I hate to go the route of a new stock because the factory one is absolutely gorgeous and the gun has a lot of sentimental value.

Thanks in advance.

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  • CMWCMW Member Posts: 53 Member
    Look into brownells or devcon steel bed if the crack is not realy seen or id suggest west system epoxy because it dries completely clear. Just tape off the stock and pour the mixed epoxy into the crack. clamp stock if needed and wipe away the excess. After it dries file or grind away the excess inside the action inlet. If the epoxy seeps onto the stocks finish just sand the whole stock down and refinish it using linseed or tru oil. So if the crack is external and can be seen use west sytem or similar clear epoxy and if the crak is hairline on the outsid and mainly internal use stell bed because it is "slightly" stronger depending on opinion. I would go with west system either way because if it is strong enough to be used on the outside of boats it will hold a rifle stock. I would also suggest installing cross bolts if the stock is that weak to begin with. more support never hurts.
    "Life is tough, it's tougher if your stupid." - John Wayne
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 10,321 Senior Member
    You can get a new one from CZ, but I have one I'll give you. It's the American style. Kinda light wood. PM me and I'll see if I can find it.
    Not too many problems you can't fix
    With a 1911 and a 30-06
  • snake284-1snake284-1 Senior Member Posts: 2,500 Senior Member
    So I have found myself in an unfortunate situation. I loaned one of my hunting rifles (my prized CZ 550) to a friend who was hunting with me. Well, in some rough terrain the sling slipped off their shoulder and they dropped it. Scope is fine, thank goodness because it is a brand new Leupold VX-II, but the stock cracked at the wrist right behind the action screw.

    It is a pretty serious crack, running from either side of the action screw back into the grip/wrist area. How can I go about getting this fixed? Is this something pretty much any gunsmith will be able to deal with, or will I need to look into a replacement stock? I hate to go the route of a new stock because the factory one is absolutely gorgeous and the gun has a lot of sentimental value.

    Thanks in advance.

    How good are you with epoxy and wood? I broke my dad's Model 700 BDL 7mm Rem. Mag. in the magazine area half in two when I was trying to unstick it. I glued the action in when I bedded it. I got it out but broke it there. I used my Dremmel and gouged out two length wise grooves in the sides of the stock, not quite going through the wood. I then knocked the heads off two concrete nails (Because they're harder than woodpecker lips as Teach would say) and layed them in the grooves in Accubed Epoxy. I think you can do something similar. That happened about 30 years ago and my nephew has that rifle now and she's going strong. Of course, where I bedded it there's a lot of epoxy and that area runs right through the break. I went back and gouged out some of that original bedding I'd done and redid some. One good thing is that the break went right in front of the recoil lug bedding. But the beautiful part is that you can't see anything that would indicate it was ever broken.
    I'm Just a Radical Right Wing Nutt Job, Trying to Help Save My Country!
  • Big Al1Big Al1 Senior Member Posts: 7,085 Senior Member
    If it's a clean crack with no missing wood it should be an easy repair. I use plain old contractor Elmers glue. Force it into the split and clamp it or wrap rubber tubing around it to hold in place. The repair will be almost invisible, and any excess glue will clean right off. A picture of the broken area would help.
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 15,212 Senior Member
    Gene L wrote: »
    You can get a new one from CZ, but I have one I'll give you. It's the American style. Kinda light wood. PM me and I'll see if I can find it.

    That's a damned generous offer Gene,
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • CMWCMW Member Posts: 53 Member
    for a more complete answer on the repair work, pictures would be a huge help
    "Life is tough, it's tougher if your stupid." - John Wayne
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    If you want to reinforce the cracked area, Brownell's sells a set of threaded brass repair pins. Drill a correct-sized hole at an angle across the crack, chuck the repair pin into a variable-speed drill motor, and dip it into regular Acra-Glas (not the gel) that's been mixed up acording to directions, or just use any fast-setting epoxy glue if you don't want to buy a whole AcraGlas kit. Run the threaded pin into the hole with the drill and leave the end sticking out to be trimmed off later. Two angled pins coming in from the underside of the wrist of the stock will only show a couple of tiny gold-colored dots when they're cut off and filed flush with the surface of the wood. The repair will become the strongest part of the stock.
    Jerry
    Hide and wail in terror, Eloi- - - -We Morlocks are on the hunt!
    ASK-HOLE Someone who asks for advice and always does something opposite
  • CMWCMW Member Posts: 53 Member
    Good idea teach, Under the pistol grip is also very good place for that. If located properly it will by very har to spot. You could even cut the pins alittle beneath the level of the wood and us a little of some dyes acra-glass to fill the wholes for a even more un-noticable whole
    "Life is tough, it's tougher if your stupid." - John Wayne
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    I've been fixing stocks for somewhat longer than you've been alive. It takes a lot of patience, and a lot of attention to detail. There's usually only one chance to get it right. Depending on where the crack in this stock is, the pins might be able to be inserted from the action tang inlet area, and be totally invisible.
    Jerry
    Hide and wail in terror, Eloi- - - -We Morlocks are on the hunt!
    ASK-HOLE Someone who asks for advice and always does something opposite
  • CMWCMW Member Posts: 53 Member
    It all does depend on the crack and where it's at. that would be the ideal place though.
    "Life is tough, it's tougher if your stupid." - John Wayne
  • MileHighShooterMileHighShooter Senior Member Posts: 4,768 Senior Member
    What a night! Got to teach both Ernie AND Jerry on stuff they've been doing since before you were even a twinkly in dads eye!
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Once again, please refrain from cutting short any baseless totally emotional arguments with facts. It leads to boring, completely objective conversations well beyond the comprehension ability of many.
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    Hey, I can remember back when I knew everything- - - - -it really does get better with age!
    :tooth::roll::roll:
    Jerry
    Hide and wail in terror, Eloi- - - -We Morlocks are on the hunt!
    ASK-HOLE Someone who asks for advice and always does something opposite
  • beartrackerbeartracker Senior Member Posts: 3,116 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    Hey, I can remember back when I knew everything- - - - -it really does get better with age!
    :tooth::roll::roll:
    Jerry

    Now Jerry, that is funny and also true:rotflmao::driving::that:
  • beartrackerbeartracker Senior Member Posts: 3,116 Senior Member
    Gene L wrote: »
    You can get a new one from CZ, but I have one I'll give you. It's the American style. Kinda light wood. PM me and I'll see if I can find it.

    Hey Gene, that is so cool, I hope he takes you up on the offer.
  • ghostsniper1ghostsniper1 Banned Posts: 2,645 Senior Member
    Hey Gene, that is so cool, I hope he takes you up on the offer.

    Just goes to show the quality members that we have. Very humbling.
  • snake284-1snake284-1 Senior Member Posts: 2,500 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    Hey, I can remember back when I knew everything- - - - -it really does get better with age!
    :tooth::roll::roll:
    Jerry

    Yeah it gets better the more you learn. My problem is that I've forgotten more than I'll ever learn....:silly::silly::rotflmao::cool2::rotflmao:
    I'm Just a Radical Right Wing Nutt Job, Trying to Help Save My Country!
  • CMWCMW Member Posts: 53 Member
    Im not trying to say teach ernie ar teach anything. I know both of them know a LOT more than i know now and i hope to be as insightfull as them one day. I know a little but not as much as them thats for sure. I was just trying to put in a little of what i "know"(and am welcome to critizism), merely trying to help. One the reasons im on here is to learn more. You cant ever learn emough. And if your refering to to the weatherby thing, i was not arguing with ernie i was just stating that the weatherbys in my experience shoot very well, they are of course not everybodies thing. I actually love the remington style action and own a armalite ar-30 in 338 lapua mag and love it
    "Life is tough, it's tougher if your stupid." - John Wayne
  • beartrackerbeartracker Senior Member Posts: 3,116 Senior Member
    CMW wrote: »
    Im not trying to say teach ernie ar teach anything. I know both of them know a LOT more than i know now and i hope to be as insightfull as them one day. I know a little but not as much as them thats for sure. I was just trying to put in a little of what i "know"(and am welcome to critizism), merely trying to help. One the reasons im on here is to learn more. You cant ever learn emough. And if your refering to to the weatherby thing, i was not arguing with ernie i was just stating that the weatherbys in my experience shoot very well, they are of course not everybodies thing. I actually love the remington style action and own a armalite ar-30 in 338 lapua mag and love it

    Hey man, don't worry about the traffic, just keep posting and engaging, most of us understand your intent. It can get tough here at times but don't take it personal, just keep posting, we all learn something all the time. I am glad you are on the forum.
  • CMWCMW Member Posts: 53 Member
    Thanks. Ya i'm im not here to offend people but i do know alot more than any other teenager ive ever met on the topic of gunsmithing and i can hold my ground with a lot of adoults. I will argue that everything i have said has been correct. I'm positive about what i say. It might not be the "best" way but that comes with experiance and also has to do with opinion. I try not to talk about something i dont know about unless it's asking a question.
    "Life is tough, it's tougher if your stupid." - John Wayne
  • beartrackerbeartracker Senior Member Posts: 3,116 Senior Member
    Just remember, I said it could get tough at times so be ready and sometimes we are so sure that we are dead right that we end up being dead wrong. Just saying.....
  • snake284-1snake284-1 Senior Member Posts: 2,500 Senior Member
    CMW wrote: »
    Im not trying to say teach ernie ar teach anything. I know both of them know a LOT more than i know now and i hope to be as insightfull as them one day. I know a little but not as much as them thats for sure. I was just trying to put in a little of what i "know"(and am welcome to critizism), merely trying to help. One the reasons im on here is to learn more. You cant ever learn emough. And if your refering to to the weatherby thing, i was not arguing with ernie i was just stating that the weatherbys in my experience shoot very well, they are of course not everybodies thing. I actually love the remington style action and own a armalite ar-30 in 338 lapua mag and love it

    Hey, most of us have been right where you are now. Just take a deep breath, hold your nose and before you know it, you'll have been here 2or 3 years and realize that when you're in the company of gun people no matter who you are you will learn something. Everybody here has something to offer. Yeah we argue and haggle but when I hear something that catches my attention I try not to forget it I don't care who says it. But there are a few here that have really done alot. pay close attention to them. I don't have to tell you who they are you will figure that out if you haven't already.
    I'm Just a Radical Right Wing Nutt Job, Trying to Help Save My Country!
  • beartrackerbeartracker Senior Member Posts: 3,116 Senior Member
    also being right just because you read it or heard someone say it leaves you still open to criticism due to lack of experience. Just a friendly warning so your time won't be so rough.
  • CMWCMW Member Posts: 53 Member
    Im open to criticism. And no where have i said anyone was wrong. as in this thread i was merely suggesting options, i have not corrected anyone or said my way was the best, just giving reasonable options for fixing the stock
    "Life is tough, it's tougher if your stupid." - John Wayne
  • robert38-55robert38-55 Senior Member Posts: 3,621 Senior Member
    snake284-1 wrote: »
    Hey, most of us have been right where you are now. Just take a deep breath, hold your nose and before you know it, you'll have been here 2or 3 years and realize that when you're in the company of gun people no matter who you are you will learn something. Everybody here has something to offer. Yeah we argue and haggle but when I hear something that catches my attention I try not to forget it I don't care who says it. But there are a few here that have really done alot. pay close attention to them. I don't have to tell you who they are you will figure that out if you haven't already.
    .

    :applause::applause::that::that: Ya got that right Snake284-1... I been posting here for 13yrs, and still like to come and visit here. And to be honest with you and everyone else here, I have come to trust the information here,before I would believe anyone else,(with the exception,of one gunsmith who I have met here in Las Cruces NM). The gunsmith here reminds me so much of Teach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I think the best thing to do on a board like this,if one post a subject and for what ever reason there happens to be some mis-information,in the post, and one is called down on it, just correct it or better yet admit your short commings, and move on. It works for me, been there done that. Its really hard on this board to try to "pull the wool over" because there are so many here that know something about something. The other thing is; it's always a whole lot easier to get assistance in person by using the method of verbal communication. It's harder I think to read a set of instructions/guidance and then try to go perform it. There is a Art,to reading and understanding a web post, as opposed to reading a gunbook, or magazine,or reloading manual.

    It is also an Art, to write a post with clear concise, to the point information. One thing that a lot of the members here like Teach, Bullsi1911, Wambli Ska, WMG, MHS, tennmike and others to numberous to mention,helped me do when I first joined here in 1999, was learn how to do this. Now before anyone raggs on me, consider myself still in the "Learning phase" for what I just wrote!!!!!!! One thing that really helps get a point across be it, giving information,or asking for it,(and this is one thing the above folks taught me), is good gramar, use paragraphs,proper spelling, good punctuation. PS( This board has taught me how to spell much better than I have ever been able to spell).
    NOTE:... Don't anyone who reads the above POST think,I am adressing anyone here in particular,because I AIN'T!!! I am talking about myself, and myself ONLY!!!!!
    "It is what it is":usa:
  • sarg1csarg1c Senior Member Posts: 1,707 Senior Member
    Gene L, you are a very nice person....
  • AntonioAntonio Senior Member Posts: 2,353 Senior Member
    A guy at the range recently had a cracked stock issue with his brand-new CZ-550 Standard too. A longitudinal 3"-long crack appeared ahead of the front trigger guard screw; he hasn't ever dropped the rifle (Bought 3 months ago at a local store), only used it in prone target shooting.

    It surprised me that it didn't had the steel recoil lug used in most Mauser actions below the receiver ring, so maybe this particular lot of wood CZ is using might not withstand some reasonable rough handling and/or shooting recoil properly.

    Because of the zone your crack has appeared, the recoil a centerfire rifle has to deal with, the availability/price of a factory-replacement stock you have (Virtually a phone call apart; try getting ANY replacement legally here.....it's easier to get a warhead for a ICBM), the rifle status (It's not a collectible piece with other than sentimental value), repair time & costs involved, and the intended use of this firearm, I'd go for a brand new wood.
  • Wheelsman56Wheelsman56 Member Posts: 225 Member
    Thank you for all the responses gentlemen. Always a bummer when something like this happens, but fortunately I know where to go for answers!
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