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  • RugerFanRugerFan Senior Member Posts: 2,394 Senior Member
    Much more information in this article than in the one I posted from Yahoo in another thread. I do like this plan. I like the anonymous part.

    I am a teacher and have thought about this since last week. Even though I have grown up around guns I would want a good bit of "action-type"(for lack of a better term/phrase)training.
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,798 Senior Member
    “We give our ‘Guardians’ training in addition to the regular Texas conceal-and-carry training,” Thweatt, whose school is about three hours northwest of Dallas, told FoxNews.com. “It mainly entails improving accuracy…You know, as educators, we don’t have to be police officers and learn about Miranda Rights and related procedures. We just have to be accurate.”


    Thweatt is the architect of “The Guardian Plan,” a blueprint for arming school staff, including teachers, that may be catching on, at least in the Lone Star state. Teachers there are allowed to have weapons in the classroom, as Thweatt's faculty members do, but State Attorney General Greg Abbott suggested Monday that lawmakers may consider ways to encourage the practice statewide.


    This simple plan might have saved a dozen lives, possibly more. One 'vein' that seems to run through all of these mass murder suicides is that, once confronted with armed resistance, these cowards immediately turn their weapons on themselves. While they are perfectly willing to die, they refuse to allow their deaths to be at the hands of someone else - I guess that removes the 'glory' that they believe they are going to achieve, and turns someone else into the 'hero.'

    Here's what my congressman says about it:
    Appearing on a special Fox News Sunday dedicated to the tragedy in Newtown, Connecticut, Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) said that an armed teacher or principal could have taken the killer’s “head off before he can kill those precious kids”:
    GOHMERT: Having been a judge and reviewed photographs of these horrific scenes and knowing that children have these defensive wounds, gun shots through their arms and hands as they try to protect themselves, and, hearing the heroic stories of the principal, lunging, trying to protect, Chris, I wish to God she had had an M-4 in her office, locked up so when she heard gunfire, she pulls it out and she didn’t have to lunge heroically with nothing in her hands and takes him out and takes his head off before he can kill those precious kids. [...]

    Pressed by host Chris Wallace on why ordinary citizens need semi automatic weapons that shoot 5 bullets per second, Gohmert said that any restrictions on fire arms could lead to the slippery slope of full prohibition and said that American amass weapons to protect themselves from the government.


    “For the reason George Washington said a free people should be an armed people,” Gohmert explained. “It ensures against the tyranny of the government, if they know the biggest army is the American people, then you don’t have the tyranny that came from King George. That is why it was put in there and that’s why once you start drawing the line, where do you stop?”
  • bruchibruchi Senior Member Posts: 2,581 Senior Member
    Maybe in order to deem any place a gun free zone it should be mandatory to provide protection for those in this area?
    If this post is non welcomed, I can always give you a recipe for making "tostones".
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    Any place that insists on denying the people there the opportunity to defend themselves should be held responsible for any harm that comes to them. The hospital where Mary works makes it a firing offense for an employee to have a weapon in their own car. Driving 20-something miles to and from that workplace on rural roads at odd hours of the day and night with no means of self-defense puts her in a lot of potential danger. I'm all for every one who is denied their rights by any place, public or private, filing a multi-million dollar lawsuit in the event of a shooting incident while they are on the premises. If enough people would take that approach, all the liberal bed-wetters would be ignored by the folks having to pony up the settlements.
    Jerry
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,453 Senior Member
    Jerry, that would work with private companies, but the governments, state and federal, have given themselves immunity from prosecution in most cases. If that were changed, I think a lot of problems would go away overnight. With the private entities, it would be easy for the employees and customers to DEMAND ARMED ESCORT TO AND FROM THEIR VEHICLES, with the threat of customer boycotting the business and employees making life difficult for the company. Doing either would bear a good similarity of herding cats, though.
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  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    How about the flat tire or blown radiator hose that happens 10 miles from the nearest source of help? Does the employer or business provide an escort all the way home?
    Jerry
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