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JLDickmon
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why does a Connecticut Mom need a military style rifle?
JLDickmon
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I'm likely to be asked this question in the next couple of days..
I need a "shut down" sound byte answer.
I was going to say, "Why do we 'need' anything? Why do we 'need' a car? Bicycles are easier on the environment, and if we have to go too far, we can ride to a point we can obtain public transportation." But if I was an anti- I could easily turn that around..
"We should ask her."
"The only two people that will ever know are dead."
"She thought she did. Who are we to judge?" --- I kinda like that one.. Matthew 7:1 "Judge not, lest YE be judged"
I did get told the other day, "The Second Amendment was written during a time we didn't have these kind of weapons. The Founding Fathers never would have allowed them."
To which I replied,
"because that was "state of the art" then.
When the percussion cap was invented 75 years later.. we gave that an OK
even though you could reload quicker as you didn't need to fill a priming pan without spilling it..
when pepperbox Derringers arrived.. gave that a pass too..
proper lady's gun..
revolvers.. so you could fire six shots without reloading..
Go west, young man..
cartridge firearms.. first use of the Henry rifle and the 44 rimfire it used was Union forces in the Civil War..
no one ever talked about limiting their magazines or banning lever actions..
Browning developed the semi-automatic pistol.. no one thought twice about it..
GI's slogged it through the trenches of France and Belgium, then bought their own when they got home..
it wasn't until Prohibition when the government finally learned that, Yes, you CAN limit the rights of Americans and get away with it did we start having "gun control" problems..
first to go was the Tommy gun. Then once they got away with that, it was "No more firearms in Chicago or New York City."
and it's been an issue ever since.
In the 47 school shootings in the US SINCE Columbine..
Why now?"
I need a "shut down" sound byte answer.
I was going to say, "Why do we 'need' anything? Why do we 'need' a car? Bicycles are easier on the environment, and if we have to go too far, we can ride to a point we can obtain public transportation." But if I was an anti- I could easily turn that around..
"We should ask her."
"The only two people that will ever know are dead."
"She thought she did. Who are we to judge?" --- I kinda like that one.. Matthew 7:1 "Judge not, lest YE be judged"
I did get told the other day, "The Second Amendment was written during a time we didn't have these kind of weapons. The Founding Fathers never would have allowed them."
To which I replied,
"because that was "state of the art" then.
When the percussion cap was invented 75 years later.. we gave that an OK
even though you could reload quicker as you didn't need to fill a priming pan without spilling it..
when pepperbox Derringers arrived.. gave that a pass too..
proper lady's gun..
revolvers.. so you could fire six shots without reloading..
Go west, young man..
cartridge firearms.. first use of the Henry rifle and the 44 rimfire it used was Union forces in the Civil War..
no one ever talked about limiting their magazines or banning lever actions..
Browning developed the semi-automatic pistol.. no one thought twice about it..
GI's slogged it through the trenches of France and Belgium, then bought their own when they got home..
it wasn't until Prohibition when the government finally learned that, Yes, you CAN limit the rights of Americans and get away with it did we start having "gun control" problems..
first to go was the Tommy gun. Then once they got away with that, it was "No more firearms in Chicago or New York City."
and it's been an issue ever since.
In the 47 school shootings in the US SINCE Columbine..
Why now?"
Never laugh at your wife's choices.
You are one of them.
You are one of them.
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http://kontradictions.wordpress.com/2012/08/09/why-not-renew-the-assault-weapons-ban-well-ill-tell-you/
(guess I could have bookmarked it..)
You are one of them.
"The power of the sword, say the minority..., is in the hands of Congress. My friends and countrymen, it is not so, for The powers of the sword are in the hands of the yeomanry of America from sixteen to sixty. The militia of these free commonwealths, entitled and accustomed to their arms, when compared with any possible army, must be tremendous and irresistible. Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress has no power to disarm the militia. Their swords and every terrible implement of the soldier are the birthright of Americans. The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments but where, I trust in God, it will always remain, in the hands of the people." --Tench Coxe
― Douglas Adams
My response to the "Why do you need such and so question: "Whether I need it or not, I'm not comfortable with allowing the government to decide what I need or don't need. Would you want the government to tell us we don't need the size house we have or the features our car comes with?"
As for the "2A did not mean to refer to the kinds of guns that are available now" argument, I just agree and say "There was no internet, radio, TV, or movies when the First was written but it has consistently been interpreted to apply to the evolution of technology. Why not the Second?"
That is a good point. I think that the founding fathers only intended for us to exercise our 1st Amendment rights (like freedom of speech and press) by speaking from soap boxes and passing out handbills-- not broadcasting to the entire world at the speed of light. The First Amendment is obsolete and is no longer valid (sarcasm).
http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2012/12/20/an-opinion-on-gun-control/
And if you have not read his books, you should. They are fun.
-Mikhail Kalashnikov
You are one of them.
Ditto. Bullsi, that link was outstanding. Thanks.
Taurus 605 .357, Ruger .45 Vaquero, Colt frontier commemorative .22 SA, Pietta 1860 .44 snubnose
Why do we need a 1st amendment?
http://gunowners.org/sk0503.htm
Judge's have ruled in many court cases that the police have no duty to protect individuals.
Here is an example of the legal reasoning:
“The trial judges correctly dismissed both complaints. In a carefully reasoned Memorandum Opinion, Judge Hannon based his decision … on “the fundamental principle that a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any particular individual citizen.” … The duty to provide public services is owed to the public at large, and, absent a special relationship between the police and an individual, no specific legal duty exists. Holding that no special relationship existed between the police and appellants … Judge Hannon concluded that no specific legal duty existed.”
I would hate to think that such decisions would be left to the whims and ignorance of our elected officials, or worse yet some soulless, unelected bureaucrat drone.
Whole thing stinks, really......
Because a Cop is too large and heavy to carry around, and too expensive to feed ! :jester:
Or Bejing, or Moscow, or Havana, or wherever your pink butt wants to go. When you get there, think real long and hard about what you left and what you'll miss. Then think about the differences in the governments of what you left and what you have there. Then maybe, just maybe, the second amendment will start to make sense to your dim wit uneducated brain.
But remember, we gave you a "ONE WAY" ticket, so stay your butt there where you belong!!!
(Gee I love that kind a talk!!! :roll2::roll2::roll2:)