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120 guns banned list

What is on the witches list?
What do you think is on the list she is proposing

Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:


-120 specifically-named firearms
-Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one military characteristic
-Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds

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  • CaliFFLCaliFFL Senior Member Posts: 5,486 Senior Member
    tigman.uk wrote: »
    What is on the witches list?
    What do you think is on the list she is proposing

    Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:


    -120 specifically-named firearms
    -Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one military characteristic
    -Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds

    We don't know yet. One thing that really pisses me off, is she is willing to destroy the one thriving industry left in the US. Many of the black rifle manufacturers do not have the lucrative gov't contracts.
    When our governing officials dismiss due process as mere semantics, when they exercise powers they don’t have and ignore duties they actually bear, and when we let them get away with it, we have ceased to be our own rulers.

    Adam J. McCleod


  • tigman.uktigman.uk Member Posts: 332 Member
    When is the first day that she will publish her plan of disarmament / restriction
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,128 Senior Member
    I believe January 3rd.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,128 Senior Member
    Yep. The 3rd is when the 113th Congress gets sworn in. We are still in the 112th Congress and if she introduced it now, it would end with the 112th Congress on the 3rd.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • tigman.uktigman.uk Member Posts: 332 Member
    Hence the reason why she is waiting
  • wildgenewildgene Senior Member Posts: 1,036 Senior Member
    ...borrowed from another forum, notice the commentary @ the end, the language of the bill leaves a airplane hanger sized backdoor open for any gun grabber to interpret "additional restrictions"...

    Obama's Gun Ban List Is Out
    Alan Korwin - Author Gun Laws Of America GunLaws.com

    Here it is, folks, and it is bad news. The framework for legislation is always laid, and the Democrats have the votes to pass anything they want to impose upon us. They really do not believe you need anything more than a brick to defend your home and family. Look at the list and see how many you own. Remember, it is registration, then confiscation. It has happened in the UK, in Australia, in Europe, in China, and what they have found is that for some reason the criminals do not turn in their weapons, but will know that you did.
    Remember, the first step in establishing a dictatorship is to disarm the citizens.
    Gun-ban list proposed. Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress). It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady's plan to introduce shortly. I have an outline of the Brady's current plans and targets of opportunity. It's horrific. They're going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They've made little mention of criminals. Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process, confiscated property, states' rights, free speech, right to assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment. The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):

    Rifles (or copies or duplicates):
    M1 Carbine,
    Sturm Ruger Mini-14,
    AR-15,
    Bushmaster XM15,
    Armalite M15,
    AR-10,
    Thompson 1927,
    Thompson M1;
    AK,
    AKM,
    AKS,
    AK-47,
    AK-74,
    ARM,
    MAK90,
    NHM 90,
    NHM 91,
    SA 85,
    SA 93,
    VEPR;
    Olympic Arms PCR;
    AR70,
    Calico Liberty ,
    Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU, Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, or FNC, Hi-Point20Carbine, HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, HK-PSG-1, Thompson 1927 Commando, Kel-Tec Sub Rifle; Saiga, SAR-8, SAR-4800, SKS with detachable magazine, SLG 95, SLR 95 or 96, Steyr AU, Tavor, Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter, Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle ( Galatz ).
    Pistols (or copies or duplicates):
    Calico M-110,
    MAC-10,
    MAC-11, or MPA3,
    Olympic Arms OA,
    TEC-9,
    TEC-DC9,
    TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10,
    Uzi.
    Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):
    Armscor 30 BG,
    SPAS 12 or LAW 12,
    Striker 12,
    Streetsweeper. Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):
    A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:
    (I) a folding or telescoping stock,
    (ii) a threaded barrel,
    (iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see below),
    (iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.
    Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rim fire rifles).
    A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has:
    (I) a second pistol grip,
    (ii) a threaded barrel,
    (iii) a barrel shroud or
    (iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and
    (v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.
    A semiautomatic shotgun with:
    (I) a folding or telescoping stock,
    (ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),
    (iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds, and
    (iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
    Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.
    Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will: Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any "semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General."

    Note that Obama's pick for this office, Eric Holder, wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a working firearm in your own home. In making this determination, the bill says, "there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event." In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal officers or the military is not suitable for the public.

    The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn't have a sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose -- is that devious or what? And of course, "sporting purpose" is a rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent.

    Respectfully submitted, Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America http://www.gunlaws.com/gloa.htm
  • tigman.uktigman.uk Member Posts: 332 Member
    Thats a long list
  • bruchibruchi Senior Member Posts: 2,581 Senior Member
    That is a "very Hollywood" list of guns!

    We should refer to it exactly as that "The Hollywood gun list".
    If this post is non welcomed, I can always give you a recipe for making "tostones".
  • horselipshorselips Senior Member Posts: 3,628 Senior Member
    Any Republican or conservative Independent here who didn't vote for Romney in the last election? If so, we're in this mess because of YOU. Personally. I hope everything you own is on this list. The only consolation we who tried to defeat Obama have is the satisfaction that you're gonna get screwed just like the rest of us if this becomes law. Only our consciences will be clear. If we're lucky enough to stop this from becoming law, PLEEEZE be sure to vote in the next election. Thanking you in advance...
  • bruchibruchi Senior Member Posts: 2,581 Senior Member
    Think that next election, at least regarding this is gonna be too late, it is a numbers game and we are VERY bad at that, sometimes I think that we just enjoy so much being the "victims" that we will not get our act together and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

    There is a very organized campaign going on to make this so and we refuse to combat this on an even level.
    If this post is non welcomed, I can always give you a recipe for making "tostones".
  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member Posts: 8,111 Senior Member
    While looking at that list, the following thought occurred to me. Our gun laws are not that restrictive when it comes to long guns!!! Provided you comply with certain requirements, you can still own long guns that are listed.

    I got 3 empty sections waiting for prospective buyers to turn up. Anyone interested?
    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 16,921 Senior Member
    I'm about ready...all I need is a place to build a soddy and a corral for the horse...
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
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