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Hakkonen
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Think the government doesn't do anything for you?
Hakkonen
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Scientists at the University of Georgia, funded by a Department of Energy grant, have a way to take CO2 out of the atmosphere and turn it into fuel:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130326112301.htm
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130326112301.htm
"If money is speech, then no money means no speech." --Bill Moyers
Money is not speech, corporations are not people, and wealth does not trickle down.
Money is not speech, corporations are not people, and wealth does not trickle down.
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Could not find it in the article...how many taxpayer dollars did this science project cost? How long is it going to take for this to make a difference in the cost of filling my gas tank?
Bottom line...considering the state of our country at this time, if it's not immediately useful the "government" has no business funding it.... of course canceling a couple of the royal families vacations probably would have paid for it...
― Douglas Adams
-Mikhail Kalashnikov
Their discovery may soon lead to the creation of biofuels made directly from the carbon dioxide in the air that is responsible for trapping the sun's rays and raising global temperatures.
Language indicates a definite maybe.
That makes no sense. You take it out of the atmosphere, convert it to fuel, burn it, and put it back in the atmosphere. 1-1=0; no net gain or loss in CO2. Mikey is crazy, but Mikey isn't dumb! :tooth:
― Douglas Adams
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
If it gives the tree huggers a warm fuzzy and they leave my F150 alone, I am for it!
If the greenies aren't charging the batteries of their electric vehicles with photovoltaic or solar furnace produced electricity, then they are sniveling little snarky hypocrites. Using fossil fuel produced electricity to charge their car batteries is pretty lame. Cow pies are green, too, and smell better than the greenie tree huggers. Sayin'. :tooth:
― Douglas Adams
You mean, they drive coal fired motorcycles?
http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/
yes, they do.
-Mikhail Kalashnikov
And we have the ability to remove them from the face of the planet. Next problem.
― Douglas Adams
But Big Oil controls our politicians.
We're still giving billions in substities to an industry that is making record breaking profits.
Should I hold my breath waiting for that to happen or what?
A bit of a hijack, but why do people show such disdain for companies that make their lives easier?
Examples:
Big Oil - provides you with fuel to travel and fuel for all the crap we buy.
Big Pharma - provides people with medications they need.
Big Ag - provides people with food
These are considered "evil" but the same people think that Big Gov't is a blessing.
Adam J. McCleod
I LOVE pointing that out to the little hypocrites.
Tree Hugger: " We need to change all vehicles into electric vehicles!"
Me: "Okay, where does the electricity come from?"
Tree Hugger: (sound of crickets chirping)
Me: "That's what I thought."
You are one of them.
Off the top of my head:
Nuclear
Hydro
Trash to Energy plants
Wind Farms
Clean energy = a clean environment
crickets, anyone?
Yup, nothings changed. Printing a couple of words doesn't change the way electricity is currently generated. You don't get to pick which power company you buy electricity from and you dang sure don't get to pick how they generate it.
Let's look at your alternatives;
Nuclear, clean? Ask the Russian's and Japanese about that.
Hydro, absolutely clean but there's not enough big rivers to go around.
Trash to energy plants are clean? You know the trash has to be burned, right? Do you live in a closet?
Wind farms may or may not be clean. The low frequency sounds emitted are creating a different type of pollution.
Looks like we're back to crickets there skippy.
Right...
Nuke- Greenies hate nuke power. Want it shut down
Hydro- 4% of the electric is hydro. There are like SEVEN real producing dams in the US, and none built since the 1970s.
Trash to Energy- Do any of these actually exist?
Wind Farms- IF you live in the right area, and IF the wind is blowing, and IF you live withing transmission distance, and IF the Liberals like the Kennedy's let it be built.... 3% of the nation's power comes from wind.
42% of the electric in the US is Coal powered. That means your iPod, iPhone and iPad are running on coal. When I see a Volt cruising down the highway, I see it with a smokestack coming out of the hood.
-Mikhail Kalashnikov
Actually there are now options to decide who your power generator is.
With more efficient generators, and low-head generators, Hydro is still feasible but not a panacea, simply one more renewable resource.
Trash to energy plants all have stack scrubbers, pretty sure they produce much less pollution than you might think, and trash is renewable.
Pretty sure the jury is still out on Wind Farm low freq pollution. What...bearing rub? As for individual wind towers, while pricey, certainly an option in less urban areas.
Yuppers, back indeed to crickets, sparky.
So the prevailing opinion appears to be...continue buring oil? Great to see all the open minds (or mines, for pun's sake.)
You are proving youself to be either low in reading comprehension or intentionally dense. We are talking about CURRENT power situations. Not whatever pie in the sky you think somehow Govt will force upon the people.
Know what will win the future of power generation? Whatever is the most profitable. And that is the way it should be.
(Before you start thinking you know something- you are arguing with someone that has a solar powered hunting shack, and drives a Prius in a carpool.)
-Mikhail Kalashnikov
And don't forget that wind farms are tough on migrating birds. The low frequency noises can be rough on human bodies, causing vertigo, nausea, dizziness, etc.
It's the one real "clean energy" plan.
Got one right down the road from my house. They are building the generator part now, but the gas part is working. They were flaring it for a while. They said there was about 20 years worth of methane there. Cool idea in my eyes.
Hydroelectric has some other impacts, too. They can alter water flow regimens and thermal regimes downstream, which can lead to fewer fish species due to water issues, or they can also interrupt the migration of anadromous, catadromous, and potamodromous species.