New Leather and Antiqueing a Pietta SAA clone (Gun Porn!)

bullsi1911bullsi1911 ModeratorPosts: 9,761 Senior Member
While at the gun show this past weekend, I picked up some leather gear from El Paso Saddlery. As always, EP Saddlery gear is just perfectly executed, well designed, and gorgeous. They are quite possibly my favorite holster maker- This is my 3rd rig from them and will not be my last. They have been building holsters since 1889, and seem to have the process down pat:


it's a #44 "Outfit" Crossdraw and a 12 round cartridge slide. Matches the one I have for my 686



Also, I had a few minutes to work on 'antiquing' the Pietta SAA Clone I picked up at Cabelas a few months ago:
http://forums.gunsandammo.com/showthread.php?11479-Gun-Porn-Bought-the-Pietta-1873

All it took was a scotchbrite pad to start knocking the finish down to a more 'acceptable' look. It went from this:



To this:


Couple more sessions, and it should be where I want it. Now I HAVE to make it look better, since the leather is nicer than the gun!
To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
-Mikhail Kalashnikov

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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 15,184 Senior Member
    Nice looking rig....good job in that shooter as well....
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • SirGeorgeKillianSirGeorgeKillian Senior Member Posts: 5,458 Senior Member
    Looks great!
    Unless life also hands you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck!
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  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 9,761 Senior Member
    Thanks Jayhawker and SGK. Rig is really nice, and has me thinking that I need a Texas made EP concealment rig for my Texas made STI 1911....
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 9,596 Senior Member
    You stood in front of the mirror last night and said, ''I'm the roughest, toughest, rootinest, tootinest, fastest gunslingin' cowboy this side of the Pecos. Now draw rabbit!''.............. Didn't ya??

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  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 9,596 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Ok Funny story time. When I got my first double gun rig for CAS years ago it came in late on a Friday via UPS so my wife just dropped it on the kitchen table for me. I found it next morning when I woke up and like every child with a new toy I just HAD to play with it. Sorry for the visual guys but I have to explain. The kids wre not living with me at the time (had recently married my second wife) so I walked right out of the bedroom in my undies, opened the box, quickly put two Ruger Vaqueros into the rig and strapped on to my waist. Not one minute later my wife shows up in the kitchen to find me in my underwear practicing my draw looking at my reflection on the slidding glass doors to the backyard. By itself it probably would not have been that bad except that I decided the outfit would not be complete without boots/spurs and a hat... I had to wait 5 minutes for her to catch her breath, she was laughing so hard she fell on the floor... TO THIS DAY it is one of my wife's favorite stories to tell at parties... :cuss:

    How I knew he did it........We've all been there.
    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,699 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Ok Funny story time. When I got my first double gun rig for CAS years ago it came in late on a Friday via UPS so my wife just dropped it on the kitchen table for me. I found it next morning when I woke up and like every child with a new toy I just HAD to play with it. Sorry for the visual guys but I have to explain. The kids wre not living with me at the time (had recently married my second wife) so I walked right out of the bedroom in my undies, opened the box, quickly put two Ruger Vaqueros into the rig and strapped on to my waist. Not one minute later my wife shows up in the kitchen to find me in my underwear practicing my draw looking at my reflection on the slidding glass doors to the backyard. By itself it probably would not have been that bad except that I decided the outfit would not be complete without boots/spurs and a hat... I had to wait 5 minutes for her to catch her breath, she was laughing so hard she fell on the floor... TO THIS DAY it is one of my wife's favorite stories to tell at parties... :cuss:

    How embarassing - glad I didn't own a pair of spurs.

    Nice setup Bullsi :yousuck:
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,173 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Ok Funny story time. When I got my first double gun rig for CAS years ago it came in late on a Friday via UPS so my wife just dropped it on the kitchen table for me. I found it next morning when I woke up and like every child with a new toy I just HAD to play with it. Sorry for the visual guys but I have to explain. The kids wre not living with me at the time (had recently married my second wife) so I walked right out of the bedroom in my undies, opened the box, quickly put two Ruger Vaqueros into the rig and strapped on to my waist. Not one minute later my wife shows up in the kitchen to find me in my underwear practicing my draw looking at my reflection on the slidding glass doors to the backyard. By itself it probably would not have been that bad except that I decided the outfit would not be complete without boots/spurs and a hat... I had to wait 5 minutes for her to catch her breath, she was laughing so hard she fell on the floor... TO THIS DAY it is one of my wife's favorite stories to tell at parties... :cuss:
    I'd tried to get that image out of my head, but then you have to bring it back up....
    Overkill is underrated.
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,173 Senior Member
    Nice rig, Bullsi!
    Overkill is underrated.
  • WeatherbyWeatherby Senior Member Posts: 4,780 Senior Member
    Bullsi you really suck in the leather department
  • timctimc Senior Member Posts: 6,684 Senior Member
    That is really sweet and you need to quit showing that!!

    You know how much I am tempted to get one and now you throw some nice leather with it? I really hate you right now.
    timc - formerly known as timc on the last G&A forum and timc on the G&A forum before that and the G&A forum before that.....
    AKA: Former Founding Member
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 9,761 Senior Member
    JBP- Pretty much. I did strap the new rig on and wore it all saturday while cooking, etc...

    Wambli- THAT is an awesome story. And I'm starting round 2 now.

    Bis- Thanks!

    Bream- Thank you!

    Weatherby- Thanks I am pretty lucky to get these, and I can tell you I am planning on another

    Tim- do it! She'll forgive you...
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,741 Senior Member
    B-e-a-u-t-i-f-u-l
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 23,982 Senior Member
    NNice real nice
    A Veteran is someone that served in the Military, it does not matter where they served.
  • gatorgator Senior Member Posts: 1,702 Senior Member
    I have the #44 outfit holster and belt too, outstanding leather.

    I like what your doing with the gun too, gives it an old look.
    USMC 80-84
    -96 lbs
  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,509 Senior Member
    Wow. Awesome leather.
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 11,008 Senior Member
    That is a very nice looking holster and belt.

    Wambli, were you sporting the handle bar mustache when you made your wife laugh?
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 7,078 Senior Member
    So. . .on the subject of "antiquing" Peacemaker clones. . .

    If the object of CAS is to dress up like a cowboy and pretend you're living in the 1880's, wouldn't it make more sense to carry a gun that looks like it's about a dozen years or less old instead of one that was made in the 1870's, aged 140 years, and then time-warped BACK to the 1880's?

    Not judgin', just thinkin'.

    Of course, if you "distress" your gun to the point that it looks like it will out-patina the Titanic, you can then justify the mouse-fart cowboy loads by saying "It's all I feel safe shooting in it"

    NOW I'm judgin'.:jester:
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • DanChamberlainDanChamberlain Senior Member Posts: 3,386 Senior Member
    Big

    I'm not sure how good the old guns were at keeping their finishes while being used. If they spent a lot of time in the leather I'd bet there was a significant degree of degradation just in a few short years. We baby our guns a lot and I get the feeling there wasn't a lot of wiping down with oily rags at the end of the day. I'd bet after a dozen years of riding in a holster and occasionally being drawn to pot a rabbit or rattle snake or shoot a tin can, most of the single actions were looking pretty worn/stained/scratched.

    Dan
    It's a source of great pride for me, that when my name is googled, one finds book titles and not mug shots. Daniel C. Chamberlain
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,173 Senior Member
    From what I've seen of Old Western holsters, molding and boning them to the firearm wasn't a real priority. The probably rattled around in those holsters.

    One needs only look at some older police revolvers to see that they can get old looking really, really quick if one's a bit uncaring in their use.
    Overkill is underrated.
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 8,728 Senior Member
    GREAT looking rig!!!!!
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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 15,184 Senior Member
    From what I've seen of Old Western holsters, molding and boning them to the firearm wasn't a real priority. The probably rattled around in those holsters.

    One needs only look at some older police revolvers to see that they can get old looking really, really quick if one's a bit uncaring in their use.

    A high percentage of holsters in the "Old West" were military holsters with the flap amputated...for the average cowpoke, it may well have been something that was whipped together out of a busted saddle fender....that being said, I have seen some really fine vintage work (but still not the quality of the stuff we see today), but I believe those were the exception, not the norm...
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 9,761 Senior Member
    Bigslug wrote: »

    If the object of CAS is to dress up like a cowboy and pretend you're living in the 1880's, wouldn't it make more sense to carry a gun that looks like it's about a dozen years or less old instead of one that was made in the 1870's, aged 140 years, and then time-warped BACK to the 1880's?

    I'm not in CAS. I just don't want the finish that looked like it was sprayed on by an HVLP gun. I'm not looking for authentic, I mean, it has a brass grip frame- it'll never be authentic. I just don't want it lo look like a Glock.

    http://www.gunblast.com/Boge_Uberti.htm
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 9,761 Senior Member
    Zee, JB, NN, Diver- Thanks!

    Gator- They sure are nice. Oh, and I realized that the one I have for my 686 is not a #44, but a "1930 Austin" holster set for Crossdraw: http://www.epsaddlery.com/pc-87-12-1930-austin-holster.aspx
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    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 9,596 Senior Member
    And she didn't get a cell phone pic? Shame on her!
    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member Posts: 7,736 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Ok Funny story time. When I got my first double gun rig for CAS years ago it came in late on a Friday via UPS so my wife just dropped it on the kitchen table for me. I found it next morning when I woke up and like every child with a new toy I just HAD to play with it. Sorry for the visual guys but I have to explain. The kids wre not living with me at the time (had recently married my second wife) so I walked right out of the bedroom in my undies, opened the box, quickly put two Ruger Vaqueros into the rig and strapped on to my waist. Not one minute later my wife shows up in the kitchen to find me in my underwear practicing my draw looking at my reflection on the slidding glass doors to the backyard. By itself it probably would not have been that bad except that I decided the outfit would not be complete without boots/spurs and a hat... I had to wait 5 minutes for her to catch her breath, she was laughing so hard she fell on the floor... TO THIS DAY it is one of my wife's favorite stories to tell at parties... :cuss:

    Kitchen Cowboy..........forerunner of the Mall Ninja :spittingcoffee::rotflmao:
    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 15,184 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Working guns had a pretty hard life back then as proven by the state of many that have survived. Makeshift repairs with anything from rawhide to bailing wire were common and the finish was gone in short order from dirt/dust and being carried inside saddlebags, pockets, ill fitting holsters and scabbards. Many did not see oil for years and at best got some lubrication with bacon fat (lard) or tallow on the trail.

    Last October I saw a pair of chaps that came out of New Mexico and were about 90 years old. You could take a look at them and tell they were worked in, but cared for. Sewed inside the right thigh pocket was a holster for a 3" single action. I ran home to get the cash the purveyor was asking....got back just in time to see some guy walking away with them
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
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