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New Jersey police officer accused of shooting man dead in road rage incident

Big ChiefBig Chief Senior MemberPosts: 32,995 Senior Member
He ain't gonna get away with this shootin like many have while on duty, no excuses he shouldn't have stopped.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/06/10/new-jersey-police-officer-accused-shooting-man-dead-in-road-rage-incident/?test=latestnews
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  • Pelagic KayakerPelagic Kayaker Banned Posts: 1,503 Senior Member
    cpj, linky no workie.
  • GuardrailGuardrail New Member Posts: 26 New Member
    He is a sworn officer with the Hudson County Prosecutor's Office, or a glorified security guard. Regardless, he is held to a higher standard, just like a citizen carrying would. The first rule for carrying, don't start the fight. 2nd rule, don't escalate the fight. This guy may not have started it, but he escalated it by stopping and even further by clearing leather.

    I have my doubts that a guy, with his wife and kids watching, would continue advancing in an aggressive manner while staring down the barrel of a gun. The police and courts must have their doubts too since he's being held with a one million dollar bond.

    It's a grim reminder that you'd better be 100% right when you pull your weapon because you will be held accountable.

    Guardrail
  • horselipshorselips Senior Member Posts: 3,628 Senior Member
    I don't see the problem as long as he wasn't using a semi-automatic rifle with any one of he following features...blah, blah, blah,...and he had no more than the allowed number of rounds in his pistol magazine. Under all the gun control laws enacted in New Jersey, this could not have happened. Obviously then, it didn't.
  • samzheresamzhere Banned Posts: 10,923 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    I'm a little confused. Story says (for what it's worth)

    On the surface, it appears as two men approached the off duty Leo in an aggressive manner. After pulling his weapon, they continued their advance. I'm my view, the dead guy is bought and paid for. Or is my long crazy day affecting my comprehension skills?

    Initially, I'd tend to agree with you, cp. Looks like the officer feared these 2 men advancing on him. Hey, when they're in reach and you're outnumbered, it's too late. That's what guns are for as I see it.

    Of course later info may show that the cop overreacted -- but based on what I read, cp is right here.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,395 Senior Member
    Article is short on information. Like who started the incident.
    Anyway, keep driving and call to Po-Po and let them handle it. Pulling over is not going to look good; you could have continued on until the police arrive. Pulling over could be seen as escalation of the situation. If the other party tries to run you off the road, well, swapping a little paint ain't nothin' but a thang. Just keep on driving until the police arrive. If they do manage to force you off the road, then they've used deadly force. If you have to defend yourself then, it's going to look a lot better to a grand jury.
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  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,797 Senior Member
    Guardrail wrote: »
    The first rule for carrying, don't start the fight. 2nd rule, don't escalate the fight. This guy may not have started it, but he escalated it by stopping and even further by clearing leather.

    I have my doubts that a guy, with his wife and kids watching, would continue advancing in an aggressive manner while staring down the barrel of a gun. The police and courts must have their doubts too since he's being held with a one million dollar bond.

    Guardrail


    This. The article sounds like it was given from the LEO's perspective and that doesn't mean it's true.
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
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  • BakermanBakerman Member Posts: 382 Member
    "......Walker's wife and three children were in his minivan. ....."

    So he had the wife and kid in the car and he decides to stop, dismount and get into an argument/confrontation off duty. Got bad judgment anyway.
    Bakerman formerly known as Bakerman
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