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Chicago Police Superintendant...Warning? Veiled Threat?

JayhawkerJayhawker ModeratorPosts: 18,162 Senior Member
GunsNFreedom.com is reporting an astonishing statement made by Chicago police superintendent Garry McCarthy.

McCarthy is angry that Illinois has joined the other 49 states in the union that have authorized some level of concealed carry. In an recorded interview McCarthy issues a not so thinly-veiled threat that under his leadership, Chicago Police will shoot concealed carriers:

“You put more guns on the street expect more shootings,” McCarthy said. “I don’t care if they’re licensed legal firearms, people who are not highly trained… putting guns in their hands is a recipe for disaster. So I’ll train our officers that there is a concealed carry law, but when somebody turns with a firearm in their hand the officer does not have an obligation to wait to get shot to return fire and we’re going to have tragedies as a result of that. I’m telling you right up front.”

McCarthy doesn’t just seem to think it may happen; he almost seems to look look forward to it with some sort of vindictive wrath. He asserts that only his police are responsible enough to carry handguns, an assertion that flies in the face of the fact that at least one study shows that police officers are five times more likely to shoot the wrong person than concealed carriers.

A key fact that McCarthy glosses over in claiming that police are so much better trained than the average concealed carrier, is that concealed carriers are not training to be police officers.

Concealed carriers do not learn radio procedures and codes, arrest procedures, the various laws and ordinances, or various other aspects of police work that take up most of the time McCarthy uses to assert his officers are somehow superior when it comes to firearms use.

The sad, simple fact of the matter is that CPD officers rarely train with their firearms. Most fire their weapons only during during the mandatory annual qualification, which lasts just one hour. There are Girl Scout troops with more frequent range time than the Chicago PD.

In most cities, a police superintendent threatening his city’s most law-abiding citizens with bloodshed would result in a groundswell of calls for his ouster or resignation. That outcome is unlikely in Chicago. Citizens are too busy going to funerals of the more than 250 citizens murdered so far this year under McCarthy’s watch in his “gun free” city.
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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 18,162 Senior Member
    Not that this really surprises me....With the exception of New Orleans, Chicago PD is one of the most corrupt PDs in the country...but then the City government is as crooked as a dogs hind leg and has been that way forever. Note: I am not saying Chicago's police officers don't have a tough job, dealing with the scum in that city no doubt requires some different "tactics"...but they seem to be unable to differentiate between criminal scum and law-abiding citizens....
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 14,375 Senior Member
    Shoot a couple of good guys with a CCW, paybacks are a B----ch.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • bobbyrlf3bobbyrlf3 Senior Member Posts: 2,591 Senior Member
    This guy is not fit to lead anything, especially not a police force in a major city.
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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 18,162 Senior Member
    The NRA and other pro-gun advocates ought to be on this like a chicken on a June Bug....
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • samzheresamzhere Banned Posts: 10,923 Senior Member
    CHIRO1989 wrote: »
    Shoot a couple of good guys with a CCW, paybacks are a B----ch.

    Nothing, repeat nothing would occur in payback. This is Chicago and Illinois, after all. Agree that it might be a wrong thing to shoot a CCW person but nothing would occur as a result.
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 14,375 Senior Member
    samzhere wrote: »
    Nothing, repeat nothing would occur in payback. This is Chicago and Illinois, after all. Agree that it might be a wrong thing to shoot a CCW person but nothing would occur as a result.

    Some lawyer would roll the dice for the CCW public and the rest of the CCW public would have a different view of LEO's forever. This cannot possible end well for the LEO community in Chicago.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,922 Senior Member
    samzhere wrote: »
    Nothing, repeat nothing would occur in payback. This is Chicago and Illinois, after all. Agree that it might be a wrong thing to shoot a CCW person but nothing would occur as a result.

    You could take it up in Federal court.






    Oh, wait...
    I'm just here for snark.
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,633 Senior Member
    Jayhawker wrote: »
    “You put more guns on the street expect more shootings,” McCarthy said. “I don’t care if they’re licensed legal firearms, people who are not highly trained… putting guns in their hands is a recipe for disaster. So I’ll train our officers that there is a concealed carry law, but when somebody turns with a firearm in their hand the officer does not have an obligation to wait to get shot to return fire and we’re going to have tragedies as a result of that. I’m telling you right up front.”


    Wouldn't that seem to mean that CCW holders would then be legally able to fire at the cops, since it sounds like they might now have to protect themselves from them? I don't advocate this, but one has to wonder...

    What an eh-hole.
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  • zeke4351zeke4351 Member Posts: 31 Member
    I am curious is this guy black or white?
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 18,162 Senior Member
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 14,375 Senior Member
    Jayhawker wrote: »
    “You put more guns on the street expect more shootings,” McCarthy said. “I don’t care if they’re licensed legal firearms, people who are not highly trained… putting guns in their hands is a recipe for disaster. So I’ll train our officers that there is a concealed carry law, but when somebody turns with a firearm in their hand the officer does not have an obligation to wait to get shot to return fire and we’re going to have tragedies as a result of that. I’m telling you right up front.”

    I suppose when the shoe is on the other foot, say during a no-knock raid, and somebody got the address wrong, the property owner should assume the same mindset.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    "Shoot to neutralize the threat"- - - - -ESPECIALLY IF THE THREAT IS WEARING A BADGE. This dingbat has put a target on every one of his officers, and it's the good guys who will get the blame if some CCW carrier has to shoot a police officer in self-defense!
    Jerry
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