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San Bernardino. Cocked revolver goes off and kills man.

terminator012terminator012 Senior MemberPosts: 3,930 Senior Member

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  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,922 Senior Member
    If that revolver had a manual safety this wouldn't have happened.
    I'm just here for snark.
  • twatwa Senior Member Posts: 2,245 Senior Member
    If that revolver had a manual safety this wouldn't have happened.

    Now your getting it, or as coolgunguy stated, maybe a required trigger lock would have saved this fella! Can't fix stupid.
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 18,163 Senior Member
    What would possess someone to stick an SA revolver of that size in his pants in the first place? Cocked? Ignorance in the extreme... Sounds as if the gene pool got a little clorox....
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    The muzzle blast and cylinder gap flash from a blank would have probably taken care of that "gene pool" thing! The bullet was just extra insurance!
    :yikes:
    Jerry
  • BufordBuford Senior Member Posts: 6,721 Senior Member
    Damn that's a lot of gun for things that go bump in the apartment complex.
    Just look at the flowers Lizzie, just look at the flowers.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    That story sounds suspect. The Freedom Arms pistol has a transfer bar safety. The trigger has to be pulled back far enough for the transfer bar to drop and allow the hammer to contact the firing pin. You can't just trip the trigger/sear engagement and have it fire. The trigger has to be pulled back far enough to disengage the transfer bar safety.

    Breamfisher, some of the newer SAA type revolvers have a safety installed on the left side recoil shield that blocks the hammer. They work if engaged, but look as crappy as the safety on lever action rifles. :vomit:
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  • DanChamberlainDanChamberlain Senior Member Posts: 3,395 Senior Member
    Had to have occurred while slipping it into his pants. Trigger hooked on his belt or some such nonsense. The flame cutting into his abdomen had to hurt like the dickens...for a while.
    It's a source of great pride for me, that when my name is googled, one finds book titles and not mug shots. Daniel C. Chamberlain
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    Stuffing a big hand cannon into his waistband with his finger on the trigger- - - - -yep, I can see the gun working "as advertised"! There's a little bit less stupid in the world today!
    Jerry
  • BufordBuford Senior Member Posts: 6,721 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    That story sounds suspect. The Freedom Arms pistol has a transfer bar safety. The trigger has to be pulled back far enough for the transfer bar to drop and allow the hammer to contact the firing pin. You can't just trip the trigger/sear engagement and have it fire. The trigger has to be pulled back far enough to disengage the transfer bar safety.

    On my Rugers the transfer bar drops down out of the way when the gun is cocked. Isn't the transfer bar there to protect from a discharge if the gun is dropped.
    Just look at the flowers Lizzie, just look at the flowers.
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,922 Senior Member
    Buford wrote: »
    On my Rugers the transfer bar drops down out of the way when the gun is cocked. Isn't the transfer bar there to protect from a discharge if the gun is dropped.
    I thought the transfer bar transferred the blow from the hammer to the firing pin, as the hammer can't otherwise directly contact the firing pin? IIRC, my Ruger GP-100 moved the tranfer bar UP when cocked. On the other hand, the hammer block safety of my Smith and Wessons drop DOWN upon cocking to allow the hammer to go all the way forward and the firing pin strikes the primer.
    I'm just here for snark.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    It's one thing to carry a 1911 Cocked and Locked, but a single OR double action Revolver??? That's asking for it.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    I would almost bet that upon further investigation that we would find that this perp would qualify for a Darwin Award.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • zeke4351zeke4351 Member Posts: 31 Member
    Probably a newbie that didn't know anything about guns was going to carry what he thought was cocked and locked.
  • BufordBuford Senior Member Posts: 6,721 Senior Member
    You are correct I got it backwards. I believe the Freedom Arms are SA IIRC.
    Just look at the flowers Lizzie, just look at the flowers.
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,922 Senior Member
    Yep. Very nice SAs.
    I'm just here for snark.
  • horselipshorselips Senior Member Posts: 3,628 Senior Member
    Isn't it illegal to discharge a weapon like that where he did it?
  • Dr. dbDr. db Senior Member Posts: 1,541 Senior Member
    We need to understand that the purpose of this article and the prominent play that other gun related accidents have gotten is to show that no one is safe around firearms and they must be banned.
    We realize that stupid is as stupid does. That bad things happen to people and sometimes even to good people. But a liberal journalist is thinking, "We must save these people from themselves." As if we are all children playing with matches.
    Keep track. There will be an increase in these unless they are absolutely squashed with sarcasm and derision from the very first.
  • bowserbbowserb Member Posts: 277 Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    A Freedom Arms is a big expensive SA revolver with a rather limited appeal which normally does NOT include urban self defense. I'm thinking Davion Titus might have acquired such firearm from less than legitimate sources and lacked the understanding of its operation necessary to maintain his safety.
    You are probably right. There is a certain element of the 'hood that likes big revolvers. They carry them with shiny ball ammo that shows through the front of the cylinder. In all probability, this guy was himself a thug, so not only has the gene pool been improved, the thug population has dropped by one.
    "We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history." - Ayn Rand
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    bowserb wrote: »
    There is a certain element of the 'hood that likes big revolvers.

    Don't the psychologists call that "compensating"? Big firearm, small "gun" thing?
    :guns:
    Jerry
  • farm boyfarm boy Senior Member Posts: 1,001 Senior Member
    I bet that was a messy scene.
    I am afraid we forget sometime that the basic and simple things brings us the most pleasure.
    Dad 5-31-13
  • BufordBuford Senior Member Posts: 6,721 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    Don't the psychologists call that "compensating"? Big firearm, small "gun" thing?
    :guns:
    Jerry

    Just a fast moving .45 Colt.
    Just look at the flowers Lizzie, just look at the flowers.
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,633 Senior Member
    Buford wrote: »
    Just a fast moving .45 Long Colt.

    FIFY :jester:
    "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
    George Carlin
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