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horselips wrote: »
Obviously an unengaged safety would not have prevented an unintended discharge. I never said it would have, and I have no idea where that came from. Please re-read my post - I make it clear that safeties have to be used, and for that, they have to exist in the first place. But a "safe-action" pistol has no safety to engage. The option of engagement doesn't exist. Had the Glock design incorporated a disabling off switch (or at least de-cocker mechanism with a correspondingly heavy 10-12 pound first round trigger pull), the officer involved, all his other faults notwithstanding, might have engaged it. If the weapon had been designed with a manually operated disabling safety, no doubt this officer's department would have trained him to use it.
I don't blame Glock for the incident; once again, a careful re-reading of my posts will show this unintended discharge to be the result of a perfect storm of mistakes made by the officer and the child. What I criticize Glock for is not incorporating redundant manually operated safeties in their designs. That's all.
You're right in that we don't know if any of the safety features I support would have made any difference or not. Might have, but we'll never be sure. But we do know this - that not having them available, and not being able to train the officer to use them, didn't help the situation any.
tv_racin_fan wrote: »
You said and I quoted "Anything you don't use, turn on or activate will work - firearms safeties included." Perhaps you misstyped.
Personally I prefer my carry handgun not to have a safety but that is my preference. In fact mine dont even have the trigger safety or a grip safety that some ofthers do.
horselips wrote: »
Yes I mistyped. I meant to say won't work. I fixed it so that a thousand years from now, future archaeologist who will dig up this board and publish our posts in scholarly texts, won't be confused. As for your carry guns not having any safeties at all, BE CAREFUL. Enjoy.
As for revolvers, they are not pre-cocked, and they have long heavy trigger pulls. A loaded revolver is not usually pre-cocked, so no safety is needed.
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