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FInally, a Cop Who Can Shoot Pretty Well!

DanChamberlainDanChamberlain Senior MemberPosts: 3,395 Senior Member
Cop mugged off duty. One dead, two hospitalized. Of course, all the questions are being directed at the actions of the "Victim" as opposed to the feral citizens who tried to mug him at night.

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2013/09/24/1-killed-2-injured-in-forest-park-shooting/
It's a source of great pride for me, that when my name is googled, one finds book titles and not mug shots. Daniel C. Chamberlain

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  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,922 Senior Member
    Well done by the officer, although I dispute your use of the word "finally." Might I direct you to Jim Cirillo and Bill Allard, two veterans of the NYPD stakeout squad who knew how to shoot? Of course they were a different generation of men...
    I'm just here for snark.
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 12,127 Senior Member
    Sudden, Acute, and fatal failure in the victim selection process.
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • KSU FirefighterKSU Firefighter Senior Member Posts: 3,249 Senior Member
    Somebody buy that man some more practice ammo, excellent work by the off-duty deputy!
    The fire service needs a "culture of extinguishment not safety" Ray McCormack FDNY
  • bobbyrlf3bobbyrlf3 Senior Member Posts: 2,591 Senior Member
    Another one for the good guys.
    Knowledge is essential to living freely and fully; understanding gives knowledge purpose and strength; wisdom is combining the two and applying them appropriately in words and actions.
  • 1965Jeff1965Jeff Senior Member Posts: 1,648 Senior Member
    Way to exercise some gun control...
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 9,467 Senior Member
    Somebody buy that man some more practice ammo

    Indeed. A abdominal, butt, and neck wounds? A happy outcome to be sure, but we can do better.
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • 5280 shooter II5280 shooter II Senior Member Posts: 3,923 Senior Member
    Ok..........how can two of the suspected robbers be charged with murder (as per the reported story) if they didn't kill anybody?
    God show's mercy on drunks and dumb animals.........two outa three ain't a bad score!
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    Ok..........how can two of the suspected robbers be charged with murder (as per the reported story) if they didn't kill anybody?

    It's a charging option a lot of DA's have- - - - -in any situation where someone dies, even a fellow scumbag dropped by the cops or a citizen, anyone who participates in the crime can be charged with murder. It's plea-bargained down to a lesser charge in a lot of cases, but it gives the prosecutor some pretty good ammo against the accomplices in a crime such as this.
    Jerry
  • DanChamberlainDanChamberlain Senior Member Posts: 3,395 Senior Member
    Ok..........how can two of the suspected robbers be charged with murder (as per the reported story) if they didn't kill anybody?

    In the course of their conspiracy to commit a crime, someone died as a result of their criminal activity. It doesn't matter who. The off duty deputy just helped things along.

    Still, the news media is asking all sorts of questions attempting to find some culpability against the cop since the "feral" citizens harmed were men who could have been President Obama's sons.
    It's a source of great pride for me, that when my name is googled, one finds book titles and not mug shots. Daniel C. Chamberlain
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    It's all good- - - - -a parasite on society achieves room temperature, the good guy survives without injury, and a message is sent to the other scumbags that being a predator could be hazardous to their health. The only downside is a 33% success rate- - - -two of the jerks are still wasting oxygen!
    Jerry
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    Good shooting no matter how you look at it. The shots to the buttocks could be construed as an attempted brain shot.
      I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
    ― Douglas Adams
  • DanChamberlainDanChamberlain Senior Member Posts: 3,395 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    Good shooting no matter how you look at it. The shots to the buttocks could be construed as an attempted brain shot.

    Now that's funny.
    It's a source of great pride for me, that when my name is googled, one finds book titles and not mug shots. Daniel C. Chamberlain
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    Actually we have quite a few cops around here that can shoot. There's even a friendly rivalry between Highway Patrol, Sheriff, and City Cops here. Some in each department put in the time of and beyond that needed for qualification and these dudes can shoot. Some even belong to our gun club and compete in our informal shoots and sometimes Kick Butt!!! Not all, but some. Some couldn't hit the broad side of a barn from the inside. But that's the same way for regular club members. To some of the cops it's only a job and they don't get off on recreational shooting, so all they do is worry about being good enough to qualify for the sake of their job.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • samzheresamzhere Banned Posts: 10,923 Senior Member
    Houston area cops are generally pro-gun and they tend to shoot a lot, especially the younger ones (many of whom are Iraq or Afghan vets). Range where I shoot, lots of sheriff deputies and such are hanging out there (the range is owned by some ex-LEOs) and they're always shooting and talking guns.

    Texas highway patrol? You do not want to face those guys down.

    In Texas, LEOs are allowed to choose their own sidearms and most go for .40 or 45. I see Houston cops carrying large frame Glocks and also single-action 1911-style pistols. And our Houston cops also seem to do quite well in shoots against baddies.

    This general sort of pro-gun, active shooter and regular practice LEO is pretty typical here, not at all like the rust-belt city cop who only shoots once a year when needing to qualify.

    After all, this is Texas.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    yeah I agree Sam that the Texas Hiway Patrol boys are also great shots usually. So are the game wardens. I didn't mention them in my post above, but both those state guys shoot at our range and some rule the roost.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • samzheresamzhere Banned Posts: 10,923 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    yeah I agree Sam that the Texas Hiway Patrol boys are also great shots usually. So are the game wardens. I didn't mention them in my post above, but both those state guys shoot at our range and some rule the roost.

    A couple months ago we had a long distance chase that was on the TV via news copters. This guy in a big van had refused to stop and was pursued by Houston cops all through the freeways, then he headed out of town on I-10 west.

    Due to our liberal Demo mayor, Houston cops are now restricted in the way they can handle a car chase, and just have to follow respectfully instead of Pitting the idiot, and these long and dreary chases make the Houston cops appear incompetent -- which they are not -- but are just held to the liberal-mentality rules. I've talked with a couple of Houston LEOs and they whole force is grinding its teeth over the new touchy-feely rules.

    Not so the Texas Highway Patrol. As soon as this chase went outside the city limits, the Staties took over the pursuit and a big Statie cruiser pulled behind the speeding van. The chase was over in about two minutes. The cop simply leaned out while driving 95mph and blew out the guy's rear tire, sending a message: Do NOT run from Texas Highway Patrol. Haw.
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