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.300 Remington Ultra Mag - Field Report

ZeeZee Senior MemberPosts: 27,750 Senior Member
Friday was clear and cold. Well, cold for where I'm at. Which meant it was in the 30s and the wind was blowing. So, I called up the Foreman who'd let me cull a doe a couple weeks ago and asked if he needed anymore taken. "Come on", he said. He took me to a huge food plot about 1,000 yards wide and set me in a pop up tent blind staked in a corner of the plot. view.jpg I had wanted to bring the kids again, but they had balked at the cold temps and high wind. A solo hunt it would be. The wind was keeping the deer down, so I passed the time ranging objects and aiming at the Longhorns. Longhorn.jpg Around 5:00, the first deer came out. Turned out to be two big bucks on the other side of the plot...............989 yards away! 2bucks.jpg That's what they look like through a 10x scope at almost 1,000 yards away. Unfortunately, this was a doe cull and they were safe. So, I watched them make scrapes and rubs along the tree line. Then, beat the crap out of each other in a pretty serious fight. Right before dark, a big doe and two yearlings came out from my left. I'd brought the Ruger .44 Mag with me as well in case of a close shot. Well, they came out at about 40 yards. I was getting the Ruger up when they trotted across in front of me and started moving out into the field to my left. As they increased the distance, I swapped back to the .300 RUM and watched them through the scope. I was hoping a solo doe would come out. But, the light was fading and it was time to make a decision. Tracking the big doe, I waited for her to turn broadside............to no avail. She was just moving away into the field. Then, she took a step to her left and exposed her side just slightly. "BOOM!!!!"............and I ain't kidding! If you've never fired a big .300 Remington Ultra Mag with a big Holland radial Brake in a TINY pop up tent blind............picture this...............Take a small paper sack........about barf bag size. Kind of smoosh it down a little and place it to your lips. Sort of like you are hyperventilating. Now, take a deeeeeeep breath and FORCEFULLY exhale into the bag!!!! That's about what that tent blind looked like when that beast went off inside. You'd have thought I fired a BP rifle with all the smoke filling that tent. Wafting out the windows like a Hippie in his VW Microbus. Seriously.........I started laughing. It was THAT awesome!! Anyway..............the recoil from the rifle off the BOG-Pod took me off target and I lost sight of the doe. I've no idea her reaction on impact, but I relocated her just in time to see her bite the dirt after about a 40 yard run. Here is a breakdown of my field of view....................Bucks fighting at 989 yards in the middle at the BLUE ARROW....................doe and yearlings came out at the right at the GREEN ARROW................crossed in front of me and I shot her at the RED AWWOR. view-Copy.jpg After laughing at the happenings inside the tent, I packed up the gear and walked over to the doe. 300RUMdeer208grA-Max12-6-131.jpg That's how she landed with the exit side up and here she is with the implement of destruction. 300RUMdeer208grA-Max12-6-1313.jpg I loaded her up and took her to the lodge for weighing and aging and Management Tagging. To which the results were.........107 pounds live weight, about 4 1/2 years old, and still no personal tags used. The autopsy is next.
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith

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  • EliEli Senior Member Posts: 3,074 Senior Member
    Awesome!

    Ya know, after I get my degree, I think I'm going to move West-er........just so I can get you to "learn me" to hunt and shoot farther out than Glock ranges.

    :tooth:
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,750 Senior Member
    For some reason, I can't get this site to work with my keyboard. So, pardon the spacing and lack of paragraphs......................Anyway..................Shot was at 185 yards with a .300 Remington Ultra Mag using 208gr Hornady A-Max bullets...............300RUMloadvs3.jpg...........That's the stupid big one with the red tip next to a .308 / .30-06 / .300 WM.....................and here is the load..............IMG_1945.jpg..........Which is COMPLETELY insane for use on Whitetail Deer.............Meh, why not? I was actually wanting a doe to come out somewhere further out on the field, but such wasn't the case. Impact velocity was probably a little over 2,900 fps with the 208gr bullet. Entry To Body.........300RUMdeer208grA-Max12-6-1311.jpg.......................................................Entry Under Hide..........300RUMdeer208grA-Max12-6-1318.jpg...............................................Bullet entered the body at the diaphragm and angled forward. No ribs were struck on entry......................................300RUMdeer208grA-Max12-6-1320.jpg................................The chest cavity filled with coagulated blood...........300RUMdeer208grA-Max12-6-1321.jpg....................................The chest cavity with blood removed. You can see that the left lung is missing the lower portion of it lobe. This was destroyed by the temporary cavity caused by the bullet. It's just..........gone!...............................300RUMdeer208grA-Max12-6-1325.jpg.......................................The left lung with a substantial portion missing (heart still incased in it's sack at 8:00 in the pic)...........................300RUMdeer208grA-Max12-6-1326.jpg............................The bullets path through the lungs can be seen by the bruised tissue..........................................(entry on left / heart at bottom / exit on right)..................300RUMdeer208grA-Max12-6-1327.jpg....................................Exit through right...................300RUMdeer208grA-Max12-6-1330.jpg............................and exit through right rib cage it broke 1 rib...................300RUMdeer208grA-Max12-6-1338.jpg.......................exit without right shoulder.........................................300RUMdeer208grA-Max12-6-1317.jpg...........................exit behind right shoulder........................300RUMdeer208grA-Max12-6-1316.jpg............................................exit through hide.........................300RUMdeer208grA-Max12-6-132.jpg.............................It should be noted that neither the heart nor the liver were impacted by the bullet, yet the temporary cavity and hydraulic pressure caused by the impact to the chest cavity ripped off a portion of the liver and deeply bruised the heart..............................300RUMdeer208grA-Max12-6-1336.jpg....................................300RUMdeer208grA-Max12-6-1337.jpg.............................300RUMdeer208grA-Max12-6-1335.jpg......................................I am pleased with the results. There was very little damage to the meat other than a fist size around entry and exit. But, the internal damage caused by the hydrostatic shock and temporary/permanent cavity were substantial! I can't wait to see the results of this combination on a game animal with some substance to it............like an elk!
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,750 Senior Member
    Eli wrote: »
    Awesome!

    Ya know, after I get my degree, I think I'm going to move West-er........just so I can get you to "learn me" to hunt and shoot farther out than Glock ranges.

    :tooth:

    Bring it! We'll learn ya.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • jaywaptijaywapti Senior Member Posts: 5,065 Senior Member
    Great report and pics, PITA is gonna love this one.

    JAY
    THE DEFINITION OF GUN CONTROL IS HITTING THE TARGET WITH YOUR FIRST SHOT
  • Big Al1Big Al1 Senior Member Posts: 8,579 Senior Member
    As usual, great report and pictures!!
  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,617 Senior Member
    Sweet! I've been wondering how those bullets would hold up at RUM speeds. Looks like it was up to the task.:beer:
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    I was thinking it would have been a bit messier at that speed, but it looks like it did a fantastic job.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,750 Senior Member
    jbohio wrote: »
    Sweet! I've been wondering how those bullets would hold up at RUM speeds. Looks like it was up to the task.:beer:

    It actually appears to be tougher than I expected as well. I think it would be a pretty good penetrator for a non-bonded bullet. I'm curious what it would do at around 2,000-2,400 fps impact velocity. Not to mention, 1,000 sub velocity.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    I'm curious what it would do at around 2,000-2,400 fps impact velocity. Not to mention, 1,000 sub velocity.
    For the 1000 sub velocity-- time to take the .308 pig hunting again. The 2000-2400 fps impact velocity is just going to have to wait for the right shot.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,750 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    I was thinking it would have been a bit messier at that speed, but it looks like it did a fantastic job.

    I'm was too. But, the internal damage coupled with the lack if meat damage has me thinking that this is actually a pretty good deer combination. I think a lighter bullet would have been unnecessarily destructive. I honestly don't see the need for a 150-180gr bullet in the cartridge. Too much speed, I think.

    I have two boxes of the Nosler 180gr Ballistic Tip I was thinking of loading as a deer round for this cartridge. Well, scratch THAT idea. The 208gr A-Max are gonna pull double duty as a Deer/Elk load without a doubt! I'll use the 180gr Ballistic Tip in one of my '06s.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,750 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    For the 1000 sub velocity-- time to take the .308 pig hunting again. The [URL="tel:2000-2400"]2000-2400[/URL] fps impact velocity is just going to have to wait for the right shot.

    Exactly! Time to break out the .308 Short and get my stalk on! Keep it under 125 yards and see what happens.

    I'll have to get past 600 yards with the .300 RUM to get below 2,400 fps. That should be doable.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 25,175 Senior Member
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,750 Senior Member
    By the way, for those that freak at such things, when I was aiming at the Longhorn and bucks, the rifle was out of battery. Meaning the bolt was up. I don't utilize the safety on a bolt gun. I leave the chamber empty or the rifle out of battery until shooting.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    I have two boxes of the Nosler 180gr Ballistic Tip I was thinking of loading as a deer round for this cartridge. Well, scratch THAT idea. The 208gr A-Max are gonna pull double duty as a Deer/Elk load without a doubt! I'll use the 180gr Ballistic Tip in one of my '06s.
    I ran the 207 Amax at 3050fps and the 180 NBT at 3300 through Hornady's ballistics calculator and neither are a bad choice (on paper). The 180 shoots a little flatter all the way out to 1000 while the 207 maintains a bit more velocity past 600 yards.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,750 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    I ran the 207 Amax at 3050fps and the 180 NBT at 3300 through Hornady's ballistics calculator and neither are a bad choice (on paper). The 180 shoots a little flatter all the way out to 1000 while the 207 maintains a bit more velocity past 600 yards.

    My 208gr A-Max are running out the muzzle at 3,160 fps and carry pretty well on paper on out there.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    At 3160, it starts to outperform the 180 at 3300 in both trajectory and velocity at around 400-450 yards.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,750 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    At 3160, it starts to outperform the 180 at 3300 in both trajectory and velocity at around 400-450 yards.

    Yeah, kinda what I figured. Think I'll just stick with the 208s in the RUM. I have plenty anyway.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,750 Senior Member
    Hey JB, there are 208gr A-Max in stock at Midway.

    Just say'n.

    ;-)
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 8,547 Senior Member
    That would have been coll to watch that tent move at the shot.
    Great pics and description.
    If I ever had a bog 30 cal for hunting the 208 would get the nod
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,750 Senior Member
    It was funny. Guess I should have projected the muzzle outside the tent prior to pulling the trigger.

    Didn't consider that. You know, training and all. Ha!
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,750 Senior Member
    Luckily, I had enough of the windows vented a little to see in multiple directions. Had they all been zipped up, that would have been a sight!! Probably would have ripped the sucker.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 8,547 Senior Member
    A video of that would've been great
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • Six-GunSix-Gun Senior Member Posts: 8,155 Senior Member
    Great shooting! It's stunning to see how energy that bullet still carries at that kind of distance. The internal damage looks like that of a lesser cartridge at sub-200 yards.
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
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