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Range Report - 200gr FTX in a .357 Mag TC Contender

ZeeZee Senior MemberPosts: 27,552 Senior Member
Well, I loaded 3 rounds today. As you might have seen in the other thread, I had some die and seating issues. So, I only loaded three round with the starting load.

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For this testing, the control consisted of Remington 110gr SJHP rounds. Seen here with the 200gr Hornady FTX bullets.

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The starting load consisted of:

TC Contender w/ 10" .357 MagBbarrel
200gr Hornady FTX Bullets (tips removed)
Remington Brass
CCI-Small Rifle Primers
12.0gr H110
1.387" OGL (1.920" COAL)
3-Shots
25 Yards


I fired 3 rounds of the Remington Factory ammo first.

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Then, I fired the 3 test loads.

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I am quite pleased!!!! They fired without a hitch and were surprisingly accurate!!!! The small rifle primers worked as planned and the resulting primer strikes looked exactly like the factory primers. Recoil was a little more than the 110gr bullets, as you can see in the videos, but not bad at all. I was using a relatively light grip on the gun for bench purposes. Not free recoil.......but not a death grip either.

I'm very happy so far!

Once I get the die issue worked out, we will be up and running on the rest of the loads!

On a side note, here is my GoPro set-up.

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"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,577 Senior Member
    Very cool. You definitely have a cool 50 yard pig shooter there!
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
  • USUFBUSUFB Senior Member Posts: 830 Senior Member
    Awesome. Care to hazard a guess as to the MV?
    I remember from the other thread the fore end wouldn't fit. Were you at all concerned the accuracy could be affected by resting the barrel directly on the rest? Or is the range short enough that it shouldn't be an issue?
    Sometimes, I lie awake in bed at night wondering "Why the heck can't I fall asleep?"
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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,552 Senior Member
    USUFB wrote: »
    Awesome. Care to hazard a guess as to the MV?
    I remember from the other thread the fore end wouldn't fit. Were you at all concerned the accuracy could be affected by resting the barrel directly on the rest? Or is the range short enough that it shouldn't be an issue?

    The range is shorter. The barrel is shorter. The pressure is light on the barrel.

    Maybe if I was bearing down on the rest with the barrel, it could effect the accuracy. But, this is how I shoot revolvers as well. Though, I try to get as close to the frame as possible.

    No clue on the velocity. Once I get a max/accurate load, I'll check it's velocity.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,615 Senior Member
    Sweet! Those loaded rounds look cool. I'm dying to know the MV.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,552 Senior Member
    jbohio wrote: »
    Sweet! Those loaded rounds look cool. I'm dying to know the MV.

    They do look kind of cool with the tips removed. Probably lessens what BC they have going for them, though. At least a little.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    So did you wear your lab coat (and ONLY the lab coat) this time to make it sciency?
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,552 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    So did you wear your lab coat (and ONLY the lab coat) this time to make it sciency?

    Was I supposed to wear the coat? I had the naked thing going. Forgot the lab coat, though. Guess that's why the folks at the range moved down the line.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    Ok, so you went the environmental "Green Sciency" route. Al Gore will be proud of you. Good enough. The science is settled.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,552 Senior Member
    Well, that's just the starting load. So yes, the question of will they work has been answered. Now, we see how hot we can get them.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 8,522 Senior Member
    Looks like you had a lot of fun and success today
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    Looks like you had a lot of fun and success today
    Yep. He can still count to 19 2/3 with his pants on.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,552 Senior Member
    Looks like you had a lot of fun and success today

    It turned out pretty good. After the frustration with the loading dies, it was nice to have a success and see the rounds actually work!! Not shotgun the target, but actually print a descent group. I hope the higher loads do as well.

    This is a loading I'd probably be willing to trade a little accuracy for velocity. Being that it will likely be a MAX 100 yard load and more likely less...........if like to get the velocity as high as possible for terminal performance. Even if that means a little less accuracy.

    We will see.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,552 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    Yep. He can still count to 19 2/3 with his pants on.

    The funny thing...........and the real reason the folks at the range moved further down the line, is this.

    They asked why I was filming the gun and I said, "In case I blow my hand off. I want to get it on film."

    They were somewhat skeptical. But, it's true.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    If it happened, it would suck, but at least you could get a good million hits on Youtube. It guess that is better than nothing.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,615 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    Was I supposed to wear the coat? I had the naked thing going. Forgot the lab coat, though. Guess that's why the folks at the range moved down the line.
    Yeah. The coat goes with the goggles, and elbow length black rubber gloves. Without the coat, ya might look a bit, uh, different.
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    I might have to get me one of those lab coats. If for any reason to keep my butt cleavage from exploding out like Kate Upton at a SI photography session.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,615 Senior Member
    You could start wearing bibs. They'd comfy, and guaranteed crack free!
  • Farm Boy DeuceFarm Boy Deuce Senior Member Posts: 6,083 Senior Member
    I am pretty sure my .357 mag dies are RCBS. I know I am not using them currently. I would be glad to loan the set out for science.
    I am afraid we forget sometime that the basic and simple things brings us the most pleasure.
    Dad 5-31-13
  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,615 Senior Member
    I watch it. Ha!
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    I am scratching my head wondering what SOA is.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • Farm Boy DeuceFarm Boy Deuce Senior Member Posts: 6,083 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    I am scratching my head wondering what SOA is.

    Sons of Anarchy. When did Chucky get prosthetics? I haven't watched in two or three years.
    That is funny Chris.
    I am afraid we forget sometime that the basic and simple things brings us the most pleasure.
    Dad 5-31-13
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 14,277 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    And after thinking about it some more, it REALLY fits. :roll2:

    CPJ's head in a pot of chili, nuff' said. You are poking the tiger:popcorn:.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,552 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Nice gloves, Chucky.

    Anonymity is a good thing.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,552 Senior Member
    I am pretty sure my .357 mag dies are RCBS. I know I am not using them currently. I would be glad to loan the set out for science.

    Let me check with another buddy here locally. If he doesn't have some, i may hit you up. I'll let you know. Thanks!!!
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    Tennmike has the solution to the boolit thing. He will make his own damn seater. Most of this is totally useless in the practical sense. It is an excellent exercise in theory though.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,552 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    Most of this is totally useless in the practical sense. It is an excellent exercise in theory though.

    Why useless?

    If we can get decent velocity and I can get the bullets to expand.................NOT useless!
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    Why useless?

    If we can get decent velocity and I can get the bullets to expand.................NOT useless!
    So now you are the one trying to justify this? There should be no reason to justify this. It could be something useful. It doesn't have to be.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,552 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    It could be something useful. It doesn't have to be.

    This I agree with. But, not the useless part. It's not useless if I learn something in the process and I already have.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    Well other than having the BC of a cinder block, those should kill bang flop dead out to 50-75 yards or so. That would be good hog medicine on my lease now that I have the hogs a little more dialed in. The last three we've shot have been under 50 yards.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,552 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    Well other than having the BC of a cinder block.

    Compared to most bullets fired out of a .357 Mag...................these have the BC of an ICBM!
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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