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gaiman
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357 sig, 45 grs @2500+ fps. factory load
gaiman
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and magsafe velocities prove out on the chronograph. That is a must, since it's their claim to fame. :-)
http://magsafeonline.com/prices_specs.php
I am NOT in favor of bullets made of glue/birdshot. I am just showing that such speeds are feasible to attain (safely) and are controllable in ccw pistols. The bullet should be a solid copper or solid aluminum hp. A large, deep, conical-shaped hollowbase cavity will add considerably more velocity, too. That was proven by the THV Arcane ammo.
So those claiming that rifle type velocities cant be had from ccw pistols are simply ignorant of the facts. It can be done, but such ammo pierces Kevlar vests. THAT'S why it's not readily available, not that it doesn't work just fine on men, aint reliable thru autos
http://magsafeonline.com/prices_specs.php
I am NOT in favor of bullets made of glue/birdshot. I am just showing that such speeds are feasible to attain (safely) and are controllable in ccw pistols. The bullet should be a solid copper or solid aluminum hp. A large, deep, conical-shaped hollowbase cavity will add considerably more velocity, too. That was proven by the THV Arcane ammo.
So those claiming that rifle type velocities cant be had from ccw pistols are simply ignorant of the facts. It can be done, but such ammo pierces Kevlar vests. THAT'S why it's not readily available, not that it doesn't work just fine on men, aint reliable thru autos
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"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
Sure, light and fast shows massive amounts of "energy" due to the fact that the formula for figuring foot pounds of energy (FPE)squares the velocity.
Doesn't mean squat once you move from the hypothetical into the real world.
In the hypothetical world my 30-06 has over twice the FPE as my 50 Beowulf.
In the real world, with similar ranges and shot placements, MOST things I shoot with the 30-06 make it 20-40 yards before they die, and nothing I've shot with the "less powerful" 50 'wulf has made it more than 1 step/jump.
So who says you have to shoot lots of the duty load thru the gun, hmm? I'd put valve grinding compound on my hi-v bullets, if I could get ANOTHER increase in performance of the % that I got by using the 2200 fps loads(as vs "normal" ammo).
All it takes to see the difference, guys, is shoot afew critters with the CCI 32 gr .22 mag hp (from a rifle) and some more with regular 40 gr .22lr "solids", from a rifle. The 22lr has 25% more bullet weight, same diameter, and the .22 mag load has "only" in increase of 10000 fps of speed, but the difference in performance is AMAZING. Regular .22's, chest hits, from a rifle, no hp, nearly always let feral dogs run off, the CCI Mag rimfire hp's dump them hard, most of the time.
.45 ball has a pathetic 350 ft lbs of power. A 70 gr , 2300 fps .45 load, tho, has 800 ft lbs of power and when you shoot critters with each, you can see the difference in performance, almost with your eyes shut. The reason such loads are not commercially available is that they pierce Kevlar vests. Anybody can get an 18 layer test swatch from Second Chance or Point Blank, etc, and prove that to themselves.
anybody can shot a few dozen critters with .45 ball, as I did, and be shocked at what you see. Most of them will run off with chest hits. Shoot them with 70 gr 223sps, out where the bullets have slowed down to 2300 fps (ie, 200 yd or less) and you'll see MUCH better performance than you'll see with .45 ball at 10 yds. the latter has just had tens of millions of LIES told about it, that's all.
BTW, Magsafe ammo isn't know for "great" penetration in flesh or ballistics gelatin, so, I also strongly doubt their ability to defeat a level III-A vest myself
He went to shoot some and the first shot splattered something in his face and the next rnd did not go into battery.
Upon inspection he found that the first bullet was still in the barrel close enough to the chamber to cause the next rnd to
not let the slide close.
That was enough for him with that ammo, he thinks that if the slide had gone into battery he would have shot another rnd
into the jammed up barrel.
I guess you believe in the old axiom, "If you can't blind them with brilliance, baffle them with
And ALUMINUM...
Think I saw it........Jaws....or was it DEATH WISH......maybe both......cute trick.................Ken
I have $5000. Let's get this patented and become millionaires, then laugh at everybody here who doubted us. IM me. Let's get this started!
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Math fail. 32 grains is 80% of 40 grains. And I want some of that 10000+ fps .22 mag. HP ammo. Name the supplier of this fantasy ammunition.
― Douglas Adams
Sweet!!!!!
Which is Mach 8.96.
So much win!