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Father who shot gunman at Huntsville skate park says he 'feared for my children's lives, and the lives of the other children there
http://www.al.com/news/huntsville/index.ssf/2014/06/father_who_shot_gunman_at_hunt.html#incart_most-read
I think this guy should have just called 911 and let the cops handle the picture taking, instead he confronted the guy and things went south. Then he went Rambo. With his history, he should have thought twice.
http://www.al.com/news/huntsville/index.ssf/2014/06/father_who_shot_gunman_at_hunt.html#incart_most-read
I think this guy should have just called 911 and let the cops handle the picture taking, instead he confronted the guy and things went south. Then he went Rambo. With his history, he should have thought twice.
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Fixed for you
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Just like the one KP put up
let LEO's do the LEO stuff
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It then becomes a gut check.
Just a few months ago some loser teen was talking to her other loser friend on a nextel for all to hear at a local bookstore. She was going isle to isle with volume cranked high as it would go. Customers were sighing, head shaking and so on ...in other words, no one had any balls to tell her to turn it off. This white trash loser, who will soon be on welfare raising eight kids, was obviously enjoying the scene she was creating. When she came to the isle I was on I told her to turn it off. She told me to do something that was anatomically impossible and continued on. I then grabbed it from her hand the whole time she's tellling she's "getting her boyfriend" ...then, when that didn't work, she's going to "call the police" blah blah blah. Upon reaching the front entrance I threw the smart phone in a nearby trash can. (I wanted to smash it) Never saw her again. I do remember the shock on her face when she realized that some play hardball. Sometimes one reaches a point where ya just don't give a sheet. I have no patience for punk kids.
Possible. More likely they knew there was zero chance of her listening without some sort of intervention and decided not to waste their time. Was it really worth risking an assault charge? You must be one tough dude picking on a fifteen year old girl.:roll: Next time don't mess with the phone, just throw the pimp hand, that way she really knows you mean business.
George Carlin
Agreed. Seems to me that both dudes were more interested in proving who was tougher (seems to be going around) than in actually being men.
George Carlin
1- The guy had zero business confronting the photo taker in the first place. He wasn't being attacked or otherwise confronted in any way. If he thought that someone was breaking the law, he should have called the cops. He was in no danger nor was anybody else.
2- After the argument began, as far as he says, it does seem that he acted in a reasonable way, but there don't seem to be any independent accounts as to the scenario.
3- Because the guy has a record of confrontations, it appears that he's a bit of a hothead anyway. I'm guessing that his account of the escalation is slanted in his favor. But if he's telling the story straight and the photog guy did get a weapon from his car and really did threaten to shoot everyone, the perhaps the reaction was justified.
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Incorrect. Guns in the Old West were not nearly as common as Hollywood shows them to be.
But back to the original post, it's hard to judge. Of course, everything sounds reasonable coming from the dad, but what's the other side of the story?
He walked over to the photographer and began yelling obscenities at him, the photographer backed up and retrieved his gun in fear, then when the dad got his gun, the photographer tried to get away in his car since he didn't want to shoot or get shot, but the dad shoots the windows out while he's fumbling for his keys. Then when he tries to go to his friends' car, they panic and run, and he can't get the car in gear to get away from the deranged man with the gun.
It's all in who tells the story and how they tell it. If the dad asks (emphasis on ASKS) politely for the girls to cover up while there's kids around and the photographer flips his lid, then Dad should call the cops and escape the situation. But he didn't. He decided that he would escalate the whole thing by directly confronting the guy.
Again, I'm Monday morning quarterbacking, but that's most likely what should've happened.
rimshot!
Excellent description of what the other guy (the photog) might say -- right now we've only got the shooter's depiction.
The photographer had the right to be there and the dad had the right to leave if he did not like what the other guy was doing. If dad thought something was amiss, he should have reported it. I'm pretty sure the parents of the other kids at the park did not appoint him as their guardian.
In my opinion......the dad was spoiling for a fight....
And if someone pulls a gun there ain't no way I'm going to leave my 6yo hiding by himself in a pool while I go and confront the guy.
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You put your hands on her person? :nono:
Assault!
Thank goodness you felt no need to draw down on the '' punk kid.'' :guns:
I sometimes think the inmates have taken over the mental ward. :buff2:
Had that been my daughter, we would be playing hardball.
Wow......You figured all this out in five minutes in the book store?
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I love sports.
Being a judjemental fool is a sport?
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Naw, just don't tolerate gang banger punks who think it's okay to harass elderly patrons for kicks.
He is now a family man with 2 kids and is studying full time.
It could be that he made some mistakes as a teenager, paid the price that society set for him and 'grew up' as a result of that.
I don't know the guy personally but it seems to me that 'There but for the grace of God' go some if not most of us.
He appears to have 'kept his nose clean' since then.................I would be hesitant to label him a hothead or liken his actions to Rambo based on those facts.
Monday morning 'quarterbacking' is grossly overrated..............
I wonder what the threads would be saying if Weil hadn't got his weapon and the 'photographer' had gone 'stupid ' and opened fire in a playground full of kids....................?
Apparently, elderly patrons harassing (supposed) gangbanger punks is okay? By your own words, she was doing no more than being rude. You took it up a notch by 'telling her to turn it off'. What right did you have to do that? Now, I hate rude behavior as much as the next guy, but trumping rude with downright hostility seems like it defeats the purpose. Frankly, I don't buy the gangbanger aspect at all. If she really was some thug's babymama, she wouldn't stand for some dude snatching her phone away from her. I don't doubt she was rude, but she sure wasn't the tough sort.
IF this happened at all. Big if.
But hey, it's your story, you tell it however you want.
George Carlin
More than likely, they both behaved stupidly and there is a good chance that neither is competent to be trusted with firearms. I'm inclined to think that there is much more to this story. I would like to hear what the girls who were being photographed had to say.
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I was at a movie a few months ago (rare because $50 for popcorn is robbery) and a "gentleman" (in his 30s) was yacking it up on his cell phone, during the movie, not the previews.
Everyone within earshot was sighing and groaning--all sorts of minimally confrontational passive aggressive bleating. I leaned forward and addressed his woman, "Ma'am, would you please take your loud-a** child outside if he wants to talk to his little man friends on the phone?"
She was utterly embarrassed and slapped her man and told him to get off the phone. He dozed off a few minutes later. Thankfully he wasn't a snorer.
Not everything is a police matter.
In the opinion of this lowly apartment dweller, and without first clearing the post with my erstwhile personalized censorship board, I would say that you stepped over the line. You had zero right to physically contact this gal or to take her phone from her.
If you were offended you should have complained to the management or simply left. But you are not authorized (nor am I) to take physical action against another person unless you're being attacked or threatened, neither of which seems to be true.
You risked assault charges plus theft charges when you took the phone.
And it's "aisle".