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  • Pelagic KayakerPelagic Kayaker Banned Posts: 1,503 Senior Member
    Gene L wrote: »
    I've shot a total of ONE duck in my life, (flying)

    You're cracking me up Gene L.
  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member Posts: 8,364 Senior Member
    No silly a** prayer from me, ...just lots of pepper, butter, onions, garlic....

    Idiots who "pray" over the animal they just blasted shouldn't be hunting. Nothing more than showing their egotistical side, especially when the camera's are rolling. Giving thanks my a**!

    I always give thanks when I am successful while hunting...........and I don't regard myself as an idiot or someone who thinks he is better than everyone else.

    Thanks for the insult.

    I think you need to move away from the 'Left' coast..........
    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
  • Pelagic KayakerPelagic Kayaker Banned Posts: 1,503 Senior Member
    orchidman wrote: »
    I always give thanks when I am successful while hunting...........and I don't regard myself as an idiot or someone who thinks he is better than everyone else.

    Thanks for the insult.

    I think you need to move away from the 'Left' coast..........

    Oh for pete sakes Alec, you know darn well that wasn't directed at you. You made a comment about guides praying over their kill and then shoot fowl on the water and I simply mentioned that it was hypocritical. Good lord.


    Edit: The same goes for you CPJ. Some of you guys get so butt hurt.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    Oh for pete sakes Alec, you know darn well that wasn't directed at you. You made a comment about guides praying over their kill and then shoot fowl on the water and I simply mentioned that it was hypocritical. Good lord.


    Edit: The same goes for you CPJ. Some of you guys get so butt hurt.

    You've been throwing firebombs at everybody for over a year now. What is your general/specific problem? You never talk about hunting/fishing/shooting, but instead post up shovels full of hate and discontent, and actively try to start flame wars. This antagonistic behavior is beginning to wear thin. And your specific callout of members is wearing thinner. You used to post pictures of the places the railroad tracks took you on your travels. Those were interesting to me and to others. What happened?
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  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 12,575 Senior Member
    No silly a** prayer from me, ...just lots of pepper, butter, onions, garlic....

    Idiots who "pray" over the animal they just blasted shouldn't be hunting. Nothing more than showing their egotistical side, especially when the camera's are rolling. Giving thanks my a**!

    I can't see anyone getting angry over someone praying. I don't myself, and don't usually say grace, but I respect those who do by keeping my mouth shut. It's kinda like standing for the National Anthem. Maybe Madalyn Murray O'hair is still alive and on the west coast?
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  • Pelagic KayakerPelagic Kayaker Banned Posts: 1,503 Senior Member
    Gene L wrote: »
    I can't see anyone getting angry over someone praying. I don't myself, and don't usually say grace, but I respect those who do by keeping my mouth shut. It's kinda like standing for the National Anthem. Maybe Madalyn Murray O'hair is still alive and on the west coast?

    lol. Not angry at all. Matter of fact, I find it rather comical. Just pointing out the hypocritical aspect of praying over a kill when these same hunters blast or catch 'lesser' game (other than the big yearly deer hunt) and think nothing of it. When that bloody albacore tuna is thrashing on deck, praying is the last thing on my my mind. I'm thinking more of fish taco's and sushi. We're always thankful when things go our way but never thankful when they don't, even when those failures often lead to success.
    It's kinda like the sports celebrity who looks up at the sky thanking god for that TD or homerun as if god had something to do with it. You'll never see that same sports figure thanking god for losing a game or event even though they might excell later on learning from their mistake.
  • Pelagic KayakerPelagic Kayaker Banned Posts: 1,503 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Add me to the list of idiots that offer a prayer over the taking of a life. Your most recent hemorrhoidal flare-up seems to be going for a record lately. Have anything positive in your little bag of comments to bring to the table?

    Lighten up Francis, this thread was a question on hunting ethics. He asked, and I gave my opinion.
  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 7,749 Senior Member
    Lighten up Francis

    In light of the fact that Wambli does more good for this forum behind the scenes in his scarce spare time than you've managed to do in all of your posts combined, I'm not going to let this stand.

    For the record. I banned PK, not Wambli.

    Mike
    "Walking away seems to be a lost art form."
    N454casull
  • CaliFFLCaliFFL Senior Member Posts: 5,486 Senior Member
    Linefinder wrote: »
    For the record. I banned PK.

    No warning? Not making excuses for him, but I've been warned in the past to shut up or else.
    When our governing officials dismiss due process as mere semantics, when they exercise powers they don’t have and ignore duties they actually bear, and when we let them get away with it, we have ceased to be our own rulers.

    Adam J. McCleod


  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    He's had that coming for a long time, beginning months ago when he made fun of BML for having serious problems with his son's behavior and asking for advice here. Good riddance.
    Jerry
  • RazorbackerRazorbacker Senior Member Posts: 4,646 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Add me to the list of idiots that offer a prayer over the taking of a life. Your most recent hemorrhoidal flare-up seems to be going for a record lately. Have anything positive in your little bag of comments to bring to the table?

    I've posted here before about taking a knee 1st thing before I begin the chore of field dressing. Every fish? not usually but after a a safe and successful trip certainly. Hell I give prayers of thanksgiving for this stupid brain tumor. Why? Because who am I to question His plan? And I know he's got one for me.
    Anyway, to not respect the game and the country they live in makes you a sad and soulless individual. I like what Steve, (5280), says. " Your ancestors are watching."
    Teach your children to love guns, they'll never be able to afford drugs
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,464 Senior Member
    Hell I give prayers of thanksgiving for this stupid brain tumor. Why? Because who am I to question His plan? And I know he's got one for me.

    I like you.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    Gene L wrote: »
    I've shot a total of ONE duck in my life, (flying) and I'm no authority. However, I belong to a shotgun board where a guy from Russia posted a video of shooting a duck or a goose (can't remember) as it landed in a field. He was criticized but said in Russia, the skill was luring them to land rather than shooting on the wing. Just a different view I guess. If I was hunting for the table, I would not pay much attention to where they were, but I'm not a duck fancier.

    I tried to eat the duck I shot but was totally unprepared for cleaning it. It was awful. I understand the ducks that fly in from the grain states are great, but to me, they're fat and awful tasting.

    I remember when Canada geese were a novelty here. I remember the first flock I saw in the Spring. Now they stay here all year and eat unspeakable things. I wouldn't eat one at gunpoint.

    Well, I have to admit, even though I don't get the warm and fuzzy shooting them sitting on the water, but I think most duck and goose hunters will shoot them when they have their wings set gliding in to land.You usually still need to know how to lead them and keep tracking, so it's not the same as ambushing them.
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  • Farm Boy DeuceFarm Boy Deuce Senior Member Posts: 6,083 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    That is quite possibly one of the most amazing statements I've ever heard. Words fail me as I stand in awe of you.

    This.

    For what Mike did.
    Thank you Mike, you probably saved me from saying something that would definitely get me banned.
    I am afraid we forget sometime that the basic and simple things brings us the most pleasure.
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  • RazorbackerRazorbacker Senior Member Posts: 4,646 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    That is quite possibly one of the most amazing statements I've ever heard. Words fail me as I stand in awe of you.

    Man, I ain't all that I stumble and fail in my faith every day. I'm in my 13th year of fighting this thing so consider the testament I can give. Also consider that the very sunrise is predictable as are all the movements of all the stars and bodies in the heavens. and have been since the human ancients did so with their crude instruments. And the seasons are predictable and have been since man started paying attention.There are many other predictable things in this life and in this world so don't anyone try to tell me it's all just random chance.
    For in addition to all that I have seen the hand of God work on the face of this Earth.
    I could go on ad nauseum about things that happened to me that really sucked at the time but they all had to happen to put me in the happy place I'm in today.
    Let me say that again. They HAD to happen. I still get frustrated with Him sometimes but I just try to say thanks and move on.
    Teach your children to love guns, they'll never be able to afford drugs
  • RazorbackerRazorbacker Senior Member Posts: 4,646 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Well it is by His Grace that I was blessed with reading this tonigh. You sir have reset my perspective and fed my faith. There IS a plan. Thank you!

    As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another . Proverbs 27, 17.
    Teach your children to love guns, they'll never be able to afford drugs
  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member Posts: 8,364 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    That is quite possibly one of the most amazing statements I've ever heard. Words fail me as I stand in awe of you.

    Like you Wambli, I also am lost for words.

    It is my sincere wish to meet up with you one day Razorbacker. Any chance of you making the SE next year at Jerry's?

    Alec.
    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 12,043 Senior Member
    CaliFFL wrote: »
    No warning? Not making excuses for him, but I've been warned in the past to shut up or else.

    Heck, I would have banned him for the autocensor bypasses in that post.
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • KSU FirefighterKSU Firefighter Senior Member Posts: 3,249 Senior Member
    His posts were getting so bad he had me trying to figure out how to use that ignore feature. Several folks on here have tried to tell him he was being a jerk. Sometimes people have to learn the hard way.
    The fire service needs a "culture of extinguishment not safety" Ray McCormack FDNY
  • KSU FirefighterKSU Firefighter Senior Member Posts: 3,249 Senior Member
    I've posted here before about taking a knee 1st thing before I begin the chore of field dressing. Every fish? not usually but after a a safe and successful trip certainly. Hell I give prayers of thanksgiving for this stupid brain tumor. Why? Because who am I to question His plan? And I know he's got one for me.
    Anyway, to not respect the game and the country they live in makes you a sad and soulless individual. I like what Steve, (5280), says. " Your ancestors are watching."

    Being around people like this is what keeps me and, I am sure, others coming back here. Makes me try to be a better man.
    The fire service needs a "culture of extinguishment not safety" Ray McCormack FDNY
  • RazorbackerRazorbacker Senior Member Posts: 4,646 Senior Member
    orchidman wrote: »
    Like you Wambli, I also am lost for words.

    It is my sincere wish to meet up with you one day Razorbacker. Any chance of you making the SE next year at Jerry's?

    Alec.

    I was at the last one and the plan right now is to make the next one.
    Teach your children to love guns, they'll never be able to afford drugs
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,813 Senior Member
    Anyway, to not respect the game and the country they live in makes you a sad and soulless individual.

    Of all the good things you said in this thread, this is the one that strikes home. :up:
  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 7,749 Senior Member
    CaliFFL wrote: »
    No warning? Not making excuses for him, but I've been warned in the past to shut up or else.

    I figured this was coming, and had a pretty good idea from where it would come. So, I'll take advantage of this opportunity to make a small, but important point.

    PK had been warned. Multiple times over multiple occasions. By numerous other members.

    Zorba made a good point about forums that are "moderated to the point of sterility". We certainly don't want that to happen here, and in fact we greatly prefer that the forum be self-policing" as much as possible.

    With that in mind, it would take a highly unobservant poster to not realize when their posts repeatedly offend a significant number of reasonable fellow forum members. Since it's highly unlikely that any poster has ever existed who is that unobservant, one can only conclude that such continued behavior is intentional. And this will get one escorted to the door.

    The most telling warnings usually happen long before a moderator gets involved.

    Mike
    "Walking away seems to be a lost art form."
    N454casull
  • tubabucknuttubabucknut Banned Posts: 3,520 Senior Member
    I've posted here before about taking a knee 1st thing before I begin the chore of field dressing. Every fish? not usually but after a a safe and successful trip certainly. Hell I give prayers of thanksgiving for this stupid brain tumor. Why? Because who am I to question His plan? And I know he's got one for me.
    Anyway, to not respect the game and the country they live in makes you a sad and soulless individual. I like what Steve, (5280), says. " Your ancestors are watching."

    Razorbacker. I believe I know how you feel. My wife and I have almost lost our daughter twice now, and she is only 15 months old now. We are called to give thanks in all things. We did not know the plan God had for us, or our daughter, but we gave him praise anyway. Her pain, and ours, has not been in vain. It has been incredible how God has used her situation to reach out to literally thousands. Her story has reached people all over the world. Who am I to not trust in the Lord. Thank you for sharing you thoughts, and I am in awe as well.
  • HAWKENHAWKEN Senior Member Posts: 1,720 Senior Member
    Alec, If those guides are Native American's they don't need a license to hunt or to observe seasons. They are exempt because of their heritage. Razorback, you are an inspiration to me. Just over a year ago, December 29, 2012, I woke up paralyzed from the neck down, from a bad surgery experience. Since that time, I have been able to get out of bed and walk some, with a walker. I have never doubted the existence of God, and I know that, like you, he is not done with me. I also know that I have a guardian angel. I am a retired LEO, with 36 years behind the badge. I have been shot at six times, and not hit, struck by lightning, and not injured, and have been in a vehicle collision where I was pinned in the car. Thanks be to God! Robin
    I don't often talk to people that voted for Obama, but when I do I order large fries!
    Life member of the American Legion, the VFW, the NRA and the Masonic Lodge, retired LEO
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    I was at the last one and the plan right now is to make the next one.

    Keep the Faith Bro, you are definitely an inspiration.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    His posts were getting so bad he had me trying to figure out how to use that ignore feature. Several folks on here have tried to tell him he was being a jerk. Sometimes people have to learn the hard way.

    I hate it when anybody gets banned, but you really got to screw the pooch on here to get banned nowadays so he must have wanted to commit forumcide. I liked the guy and we IMed occasionally, but I noticed a change in him lately and wanted to tell him to take a chill pill.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
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