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JasonMPD
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Defending your dog from K9 attack.
JasonMPD
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The scenario :
You walk your dog like every evening and know your neighborhood dogs well. None of them that you know of are human aggressive. Your dog is on a lead and obedient to your commands. You are carrying your EDC.
Another dog of large enough size to draw concern barks and gets your attention as it scales it's short yard fence and makes a bee-line for your dog, snarling and convincing you quite strongly it intends to attack your dog.
Is this a shoot situation? Do you try and fend off the dog without your firearm? Is there another option in your mind here?
You walk your dog like every evening and know your neighborhood dogs well. None of them that you know of are human aggressive. Your dog is on a lead and obedient to your commands. You are carrying your EDC.
Another dog of large enough size to draw concern barks and gets your attention as it scales it's short yard fence and makes a bee-line for your dog, snarling and convincing you quite strongly it intends to attack your dog.
Is this a shoot situation? Do you try and fend off the dog without your firearm? Is there another option in your mind here?
“There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
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Yes.
I'm obviously checking fore/background.....but yes, the attacker is going to catch a round.
A dog about lab size(who always barks at us) came running around the side of his house (he is usually on a chain) and barking and growling, charged in our direction. The events are as follows:
- I stepped in front of kids.
- Right hand pulled my dog to the rear.
- Left hand drew knife.
- Left foot kicked charging dog in the head.
- Repositioned in front of kids and pulled my dog to rear (she was trying to come around me to the other dog).
- Strange dog approached again (at this point I knew he was going for my dog).
- Kicked him in the head again.
- Repeat all again.
By this point, after the third kick to the head, the neighbor ran around the corner as he heard all the barking, growling, screaming, yelling. I nicely advised him I was going to kill his dog and he ran over and grabbed him.
I didn't say a word after that. I turned, and walked away. Kids and dog following.
I did not feel the need to use deadly force up to that point as I determined he was going for my dog and not my kids. Had he gotten a mouth full of me or my dog, I'd have stuck him.
Every situation is different and needs to be assessed and responded to accordingly. I assessed and reacted as I deemed necessary. I chose not to shoot. That time. Under those circumstances.
There are no scripts.
When I walk, I carry a stick just in case. I doubt you'd get in trouble for doing what Zee did, or for taking a stick to the dog.
As to the OP...try hollering "NO" forcefully and in a commanding voice before you go blowing gaping bloody holes in fido....Most dogs that have contact with humans know and understand the word.
Some years ago, I attended a course hosted by the Michigan State Police entitled..."How Not to Get Bit"...Every dog handler advised that hollering "NO" avoiding eye contact and not moving will shut down even trained dogs. They then suited us up and showed us that it worked with their dogs....
Now it doesn't work 100% of the time or with all dogs...(when faced with a fear biter - it's likely you're gonna get bit)...but it's certainly worth a try...
As with people, going to guns should be a last resort...
Depending on your locale you may end up in jail and charged with animal abuse/discharging a firearm in city limits or going home with positive comments about your marksmanship....
Since then, I've been bitten many a time with protective gear on and dealt with many dogs while..........exploring new locations.
Dogs don't worry me much anymore. Very few have the balls to see an attack through when you are more violent than they.
Ain't no way, I'm gonna get bit in my own yard.
I will fear no evil: For I carry a .308 and not a .270
-96 lbs
Neighbor has a couple of boxers who are probably the world's best dogs, except when other dogs come around. They've tried twice to get my animals and they actually came into our yard while I was escorting our dogs around the yard for their evening business. (No fence). In the first case, they made a beeline for the larger and our smaller tore into them! I kicked one really hard in the stomach and he headed home yelping. The other, I had to kick in the head before it got the idea it wasn't welcome. I called the neighbor and told him that in my yard, his dogs are meat, next time they come to visit. For a while I took to carrying a Zulu short spear while taking the dogs for their evening business in our yard, and making sure he saw it (this was before concealed carry came to Illinois).
Our twin mutts have since passed on and we now have a little dog who we walk every night. Twice they have come onto the sidewalk growling and snapping and in once case I picked one up by his collar and dangled him in front of the owner who was getting a bit upset. My wife picked up our dog and the other boxer was focused on the dog and not my wife so I didn't see the need to shoot him.
The owner got his dogs under control and I told him my patients had worn out. Next time, it's a police report.
But, they were boxers so I didn't feel too frightened. A pitt, rott or some such might get me to change my mind.
The guy was mad because he could see I was prepared to shoot, and he had lots of nasty comments about policemen etc, I could have shot, however it was quite unnecessary in any case.
I think it would be a lot more efficient to beat the hell out of the owner of the untrained dog, but the law has different ideas about that.
― Douglas Adams
Denny
Yeah, but who is going to nit pick whether you were defending yourself or your dog? All you have to say is that damn dog was charging me aggressively trying to hurt US. Don't have to bring up about your fear for your dog.
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
You can make it yourself and use a metal spray pump to deliver it.
Thanks for filling in a missing piece of my young life. When I was about seven, I read a book called "Harbin's Ridge," could be Harben's. Anyway, it was about a family in KY and was one of those book of the month club books above my age level. But it talks about "High Lifeing" a dog. Until I saw your post, I had no idea what it meant.
The stuff was called "High Life" I found out from the Internet. It was widely used on the farm for dissuading animals.
Jerry