.460 S&W Field Report and my Grail Animal

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  • HvyMaxHvyMax Senior Member Posts: 1,786 Senior Member
    Fisheadgib wrote: »
    Everyone is mentioning ways to make an animal slide easier but what about the other end of the rope? I had a friend get me to try the cheap drag harnesses from Wally World. They run about five bucks and they work surprisingly well. They come with a cheap, short piece of cord that I replace with a 15ft piece of heavier rope and they bundle up pretty small in my pack. I tie the front legs together with the rope and tie them close to the neck and then to the harness. I hunt pretty deep in the woods most of the time and have drug deer and hogs some pretty large distances with the thing. It distributes the weight across your back and shoulders and makes it immeasurably easier to drag an animal as once you get the animal moving and, you just walk at about a normal pace. As long as you don't stop, the animal will slide pretty easy. I've drug a few animals by just holding on to the rope or wrapping the rope over my shoulder and I would have to keep stopping to rest my shoulder and arms but with this thing there is little strain on any one part of your body. I'll never walk into the woods without on again.

    Yeah that's what I did before the 4wheeler.
    Wal Mart where the discriminating white trash shop.
    Paddle faster!!! I hear banjos.
    Reason for editing: correcting my auto correct
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,612 Senior Member
    Jay wrote: »
    Excellent hunt and writeup, bud! Congrats on the Axis. Very nice looking deer. Glad the XTP worked for you. No doubt about that. If you ever have the urge to give it a try, I wonder how the 240 XTP-Mag would perform. I have always planned on using the 240 for deer and the 300 for Elk. At one point, I wondered how they'd hold up. I belive I won't worry about that any more now. I'll just go forward with the plan and put in for hunts next year.....

    I'm gonna stick with the 250s for deer and hogs and the like. Mostly because I have 300 of them and I don't want to use them in the Colt.

    For bigger stuff.........I have these.

    350grTestLoads2_zpsd4b657e2.jpg

    Made up these test loads last night with H110.

    350gr RF-GC from Matt's Bullets.

    37.0gr
    37.5gr
    38.0gr
    38.5gr

    I plan to hit the range this week some time.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,612 Senior Member
    JasonMPD wrote: »
    Damn fine hunt sir. Great Axis buck!! A little bit of lady luck never hurt. Glad you got to blood the .460S&W and your 7mm Mag in the same sitting.

    I almost didn't bring a second gun. I'd have cried.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,612 Senior Member
    Fisheadgib wrote: »
    Everyone is mentioning ways to make an animal slide easier but what about the other end of the rope? I had a friend get me to try the cheap drag harnesses from Wally World. They run about five bucks and they work surprisingly well. They come with a cheap, short piece of cord that I replace with a 15ft piece of heavier rope and they bundle up pretty small in my pack. I tie the front legs together with the rope and tie them close to the neck and then to the harness. I hunt pretty deep in the woods most of the time and have drug deer and hogs some pretty large distances with the thing. It distributes the weight across your back and shoulders and makes it immeasurably easier to drag an animal as once you get the animal moving and, you just walk at about a normal pace. As long as you don't stop, the animal will slide pretty easy. I've drug a few animals by just holding on to the rope or wrapping the rope over my shoulder and I would have to keep stopping to rest my shoulder and arms but with this thing there is little strain on any one part of your body. I'll never walk into the woods without on again.

    Most other places, I can drive pretty close to any animal. This particular place, I can't. And it sucks.

    Well, it sucks as to dragging. The hunting has been awesome!!!!!!
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JayJay Senior Member Posts: 3,327 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    I'm gonna stick with the 250s for deer and hogs and the like. Mostly because I have 300 of them and I don't want to use them in the Colt.

    For bigger stuff.........I have these.

    [deleted pic]

    Made up these test loads last night with H110.

    350gr RF-GC from Matt's Bullets.

    37.0gr
    37.5gr
    38.0gr
    38.5gr

    I plan to hit the range this week some time.

    I don't blame you a bit. I never really had the urge to shoot the 250's in Colt, so I never really got into using them. I'd be a little hesitant to try them in Casull and especially in 460 in my case, shooting a revolver. They obviously work fine for you and your application.

    Still need to gets me some of those big chunks of lead to shoot out of mine!!!!! Those should put a smackdown on something!!!! Looking forward to your range report on them.

    And you have my mind working..........just little puffs of smoke out of the ears so far.... :tooth:
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,612 Senior Member
    CHIRO1989 wrote: »
    You ARE a knuckle dragger, try to help a guy and he wants to wreck his hide anyway. You better have a cart next time you shoot a nice one like that Axis or I will fart in your general direction.

    I just dropped off the Axis and Blackbuck skulls at the taxidermist. I checked.......out of curiosity. A shoulder mount, and he does beautiful work, cost $595 a piece.

    Compared to $100 for a European skull mount.

    Yeah. I'll stick with European.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 10,927 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    I just dropped off the Axis and Blackbuck skulls at the taxidermist. I checked.......out of curiosity. A shoulder mount, and he does beautiful work, cost $595 a piece.

    Compared to $100 for a European skull mount.

    Yeah. I'll stick with European.

    Seems about right to me:uhm:, that was a pretty hide, on the wall it should have been. You could have at least made Buffy some underwear out of the hide.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 15,213 Senior Member
    I am having the hide tanned on my kid's first deer. We just folded it up, stuck it in the freezer and shipped it off last Monday. I am letting them do the fleshing and all that stuff. They seem pretty reasonable. I will let you guys know how it turns out....

    http://www.sivkofur.com/
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,612 Senior Member
    Even the taxidermist asked if I still had the capes or hides. Said he could have used them. Oops.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • twatwa Senior Member Posts: 2,231 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    I just dropped off the Axis and Blackbuck skulls at the taxidermist. I checked.......out of curiosity. A shoulder mount, and he does beautiful work, cost $595 a piece.

    Compared to $100 for a European skull mount.

    Yeah. I'll stick with European.

    My buddy talked me into doing european mounts this year ourselves. Will let you know how they turn out. He uses a turkey fryer burner and a big metal pot to boil the heads, his look really good, so I am pretty excited to learn the tricks. (if any) Like you mentioned a hell of a lot cheaper than a regular mount and they look really cool.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,612 Senior Member
    My skulls are piling up.

    DAC46E60-E767-44EF-B5CC-BB8F7064BE75_zpsm4foq2t7.jpg

    That's just two shelves. On one bookshelf. In one corner. Of one room.

    I don't see the problem my wife does.

    I still have 3 antelope skulls in the freezer. An elk skull and antlers on the back porch and a oryx skull in the front rock garden because I don't have room inside.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • twatwa Senior Member Posts: 2,231 Senior Member
    I feel you brother. The wife gives me he'll to.
    Do you do your own skulls?
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 10,927 Senior Member
    Time to build a "garage", with a bathroom, a pool table, and a fridge, and lots of wall space.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,612 Senior Member
    I usually do the deer and stuff with antlers myself. Stuff like antelope with horns (hair), I have someone do. I ruined one once because the horns come apart at the base if the water boils them too much.

    Currently, I am without a burner and pot big enough for the Axis.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,687 Senior Member
    I've got a friend that keeps a colony of dermestid beetles in one of his storage sheds and after doing a skull with them, I'll never boil one again. You skin the fir off of the head as they won't eat hair or fir and then you put the skull in with them. After a few weeks to a month, you pull it out and let it soak in a bucket of water and dawn detergent to draw the oils and fat from the bone and make it clean and white, change the soak mixture a couple of times over a week or two, then pull the skull out and let it dry. The bugs don't damage all the fine cartilage on some skulls and there's very little handling. The whole process takes a little longer than boiling but it's way less work and the results are better.
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
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  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,687 Senior Member
    HvyMax wrote: »
    Yeah that's what I did before the 4wheeler.


    Many of the lease's I've been on don't allow those things and I wouldn't have one if they did. They're too dang noisy. I hunted on one lease that didn't even allow wheeled carts.
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
    .
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,101 Senior Member
    Fisheadgib wrote: »
    I've got a friend that keeps a colony of dermestid beetles in one of his storage sheds and after doing a skull with them, I'll never boil one again. You skin the fir off of the head as they won't eat hair or fir and then you put the skull in with them. After a few weeks to a month, you pull it out and let it soak in a bucket of water and dawn detergent to draw the oils and fat from the bone and make it clean and white, change the soak mixture a couple of times over a week or two, then pull the skull out and let it dry. The bugs don't damage all the fine cartilage on some skulls and there's very little handling. The whole process takes a little longer than boiling but it's way less work and the results are better.
    Dermestids, if you can find them, are the way to go. We had a colony in college that we'd use to remove the meat from fish heads (real ones) so students could look a the skulls. Much easier than doing it by hand. We dried the heads first, seemed to work just a little faster.
    Overkill is underrated.
  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,687 Senior Member
    My friend bought them on line. There's actually several places that sell them on line now.
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
    .
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,101 Senior Member
    I'm not surprised. I do remember that we had to be careful with them. They would also eat paper, I believe. So after we got done with a head, it was put in a freezer for a few days to kill the beetles.
    Overkill is underrated.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,612 Senior Member
    That would actually be kinda cool for the kids to watch.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,687 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    That would actually be kinda cool for the kids to watch.


    It's interesting to watch the progress and see the results but watching them in progress is about like watching grass grow. It looks like some small roaches ambling around. They don't swarm onto something voraciously like you would see in a horror movie and they only eat dead stuff. It is cool in that they will clean pretty well any type of skeleton without damaging it from a tiny bird, minnow, or rodent to a large animal given enough time.
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
    .
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