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Ten Things You Need to Know About Fast Track Trade Deal/Anti-Gun?

Big ChiefBig Chief Senior MemberPosts: 32,995 Senior Member
Contact your Congressmen/women they had better investigate the full implications of this.

Secret contents closed to the public and most members of Congress now, be wary my friends this opens a whole new can of possible worms. Why are they keeping what it contains from us? Why are REPS so fast to pass it? What could it really mean?

Another Just Sign It and Worry About What Is Written In It Later Bill like Nancy Pelosi and the ACA????

Obammny is drooling for it, Why? I SMELL A RAT!

"Seven: Over The Next Six Years, There Is Ample Time To Insert Firearms Import Bans (With The Force Of Statutory Law) Into The TPP, The EU Agreement, or A Separate Trade Agreement For That Purpose.

Barack Obama has been rabid in his zeal to destroy the Second Amendment community. Over and over again, he has experimented with a wide variety of schemes to ban guns by regulatory fiat: eliminating credit, banning ammunition, compiling a gun registry, encouraging state bans, reclassifying common guns, banning the import of guns, and so forth. And yet, Hatch and Ryan didn't see fit to even purport to prohibit the Obama administration from using a trade agreement to impose a statutory gun import ban."

http://cqrcengage.com/gunowners/app/write-a-letter?0&engagementId=98514

http://townhall.com/columnists/michaelhammond/2015/04/27/ten-things-you-need-to-know-about-fast-track-n1991040/page/full
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  • shootbrownelkshootbrownelk Senior Member Posts: 2,035 Senior Member
    NAFTA was a disaster for the American working stiff. I can't see this being any better. I guess it means that worldwide wage equality means that American workers will be paid as much as the upper-tier 12 year old Chinese kids!
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Something fishy about this, it needs more scrutiny, if nothing else to put our fears to rest.

    What in the Wide World of Sports is going on here? When REPs are chomping at the bit to give Obammy more authority to make deals/fast track them?
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,986 Senior Member
    NAFTA was a disaster for the American working stiff. I can't see this being any better. I guess it means that worldwide wage equality means that American workers will be paid as much as the upper-tier 12 year old Chinese kids!
    Remember, NAFTA was backed by both Clinton *AND* Bush.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • shootbrownelkshootbrownelk Senior Member Posts: 2,035 Senior Member
    zorba wrote: »
    Remember, NAFTA was backed by both Clinton *AND* Bush.

    Republicans and Democrats are equally corrupt. Hard to tell them apart these days. Both parties are b*t*hes to big business money.
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,911 Senior Member
    Republicans LOVE free trade. It is always profitable for their billionaire masters. It makes it easier to outsource jobs and drive down wages on the jobs they can't outsource.

    Damn, you sure sound like Ovomit. Paint your face tan and stretch out your ears and you would look like him too.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    Politicians and street-walking hookers have one thing in common- - - -they're for sale to the highest bidder. At least the streetwalkers are honest about it. "Trade" agreements involve multi-national payoffs, as we've been learning lately about Hilary, and Obummer is most likely in it up to the eyeballs. The concerns that GOA and NRA have about sneaky gun control maneuvers getting included in the deal might be legitimate. I'm more concerned with giving that worthless liar any more power in any shape or form!
    Jerry
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    Republicans LOVE free trade. It is always profitable for their billionaire masters. It makes it easier to outsource jobs and drive down wages on the jobs they can't outsource.
    Damn! You sound like a broken record. The only good thing about all this will be one day when we get to tell you, "We told you so!"
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • HvyMaxHvyMax Senior Member Posts: 1,826 Senior Member
    The Repunklickan Establishment has no more use for a free middle-class than the Bolsheviks!
    Wal Mart where the discriminating white trash shop.
    Paddle faster!!! I hear banjos.
    Reason for editing: correcting my auto correct
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,813 Senior Member
    ...But no stick your fingers in your ears and close your eyes and go on not holding politicians in your own party accountable for their votes or even worse going along with whatever they say because you're too lazy to think for yourself.

    You are absolutely the wrong guy to be preaching this message. You disappear every time your guys get busted and reappear as soon as the media has swept everything under the rug.

    I would say that the major difference between the way the two parties handle controversial issues is that Democrats march in lockstep and repeat the talking points endlessly and verbatim, whereas Republicans at least usually have plenty of dissenters who want to debate the issue on its merits. You only have to look at the number of presidential candidates in each party to see this - at least most blind and deaf people can figure it out, eventually.
  • wildgenewildgene Senior Member Posts: 1,036 Senior Member
    ...maybe yer missing the point here, the Admin is supposed to be representing "We The People". No agreements w/ other govts' should be hidden behind a veil of secrecy. It's not Obama's job to decide what's good for us ignorant, unwashed heathens, his job is to represent our will, but this admin has done everything it can to undermine or bypass our representatives & force its mandates on us...
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,911 Senior Member
    Free trade is only as free as what the provisions say it is. Unfortunately there is competing ideology in any one agreement and usually the working stiffs get the crappy end of the stick. If they came up with a truly "fair trade" agreement, maybe we could get somewhere.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,911 Senior Member
    I criticize democrats around here all the time (see recent threads about the Clinton foundation), it's just that those threads rarely get much attention because I'm just one more voice saying the same thing. In general I'm far more interested in policy than politics. I don't consider the Democrats "my team". I just often select their flavor of poop sandwich to the other kind as I find it a bit less runny and I occasionally find a nice corn kernel in there.
    If you vote for socialism all the time, then that's what you will get all the time. There are some things about the Republican party that the rest of us don't like, but in general the Republican philosophy represents more freedom and economic expansion than the Democrats do. Unfortunately the Republican party is dominated by statist neocons who do not have the best interests of the country in mind, and the democrats are guilty of it as well.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,813 Senior Member
    Obama is a notorious corporate whore. He's as worthless as a Republican when it comes to standing up for the middle class. A majority of Democrats oppose him on this, but a handful will vote with Republicans to pass it and he'll be able to tout it as a great bipartisan victory.

    It's not about who punishes the wealthy the most - it's about socialism vs capitalism. Obama's sugar-daddies are for preserving their elitism, by controlling the wealth and using left-wing politicians as their 'apparatchik' to stuff it down the throats of the middle class. The Republicans are for creating new wealth that they are perfectly willing to allow to trickle down. There is no trickle-down with socialism. All of the wealth is controlled by the elitests and doled out to the masses, by the government. Socialism eliminates the middle class, entirely, which is exactly what is happening.

    Republicans, with all of their faults, are capitalists. Democrats, for at least 30 years, have been socialists, despite all the denials and straw men that you put out there. How can you deny that crippling regulations are wrecking the small businesses that employ the middle class? When you can admit this, I might have some respect for your abilities as a political science 'expert.' Although, I'm sure you have been programmed to guffaw every time you hear "trickle-down," so you are probably no longer even reading this.

    Leftists can portray themselves (politically) any way they want to because they don't have to actually produce anything. They simply have to find the faults with every capitalistic endeavor, and use them to negate the many positives to be found in them. They create nothing of their own because, then, leftists can also be criticized for the flaws in what they have done. The majority of folks think Obamacare is a monumental failure because it is screwing up the entire medical system. In reality, it has accomplished what was intended - to plunge us into a socialistic system that lowers expectations and makes people think they cannot survive without government.

    Being really smart is cool, I guess. But, it's really funny how really smart people so often cannot see the simplest things that moderately intelligent people take for granted, like the fact that capitalism works. I guess it's because they keep their noses buried in the statistics that obscure the big truth with hundreds of little truths that don't really matter.
  • LanceLance Member Posts: 149 Member
    "The only difference between the Republican and Democratic parties is the velocities with which their knees hit the floor when corporations knock on their door. That's the only difference." - Ralph Nader
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