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JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior MemberPosts: 6,557 Senior Member
When the second coming of Jesus occurs and he brings with him cradled in his arms the only bottle of Trailboss left in the universe, I'm going to work up a fun SS 308 load. I've read some quite lengthy articles about jacketed bullets and SS loads as a safety issue.

Basically, pressure spikes in SS loads are more rapid than in supersonic loads due to fast burning powders being used. Lead bullets or lube coated jacketed bullets are recommended. But I'm not messing around with lubing bullets.

http://hunters-supply.com/shop/311-cal-238-p-1179.html?osCsid=kga5l4gsr5r098klcp4bl9s0p2

These look tempting. Suggestions? Gas check or no with subsonic 308?
“There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers

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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,395 Senior Member
    JasonMPD wrote: »
    When the second coming of Jesus occurs and he brings with him cradled in his arms the only bottle of Trailboss left in the universe, I'm going to work up a fun SS 308 load. I've read some quite lengthy articles about jacketed bullets and SS loads as a safety issue.

    Basically, pressure spikes in SS loads are more rapid than in supersonic loads due to fast burning powders being used. Lead bullets or lube coated jacketed bullets are recommended. But I'm not messing around with lubing bullets.

    http://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/ares-defense-rifles/SCR-LWR-MC

    These look tempting. Suggestions? Gas check or no with subsonic 308?

    I like the ARESDefense stock, but not to the tune of 5 Benjamins.

    Regarding lead bullets, I'm liking the powder coating thing pretty well. No lube required. No need for gas checks with subsonic loads. And powder coating is EZPZ. I use sandwich sized plastic containers to coat the bullets in, small forceps to grab them and set them on the non stick aluminum foil, and a cheap toaster oven to bake them. And you can surface harden by dumping the hot coated bullets in cold water. Don't know how you feel about casting bullets, but it's an easy process, too.

    And Trail Boss is a good way to get subsonic with a full case of powder without worrying about pressure spikes from small charges of smokeless powder.
    Link on "How To" for loading ANY cartridge with Trail Boss Powder.
    http://www.imrpowder.com/PDF/Trail-Boss-data.pdf

    Don't wanna cast your own, then buy them unlubed:

    http://westernbullet.com/30caliber.html

    Don't want to powder coat the unlubed bullets yourself; no problem:

    http://missouribullet.com/results.php?category=6

    No excuses now; I looked it all up for you! Now get to work and report back on your results, please!
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  • BigDanSBigDanS Senior Member Posts: 6,973 Senior Member
    And no need to gas check at subsonic speeds.

    D
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  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,557 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    I like the ARESDefense stock, but not to the tune of 5 Benjamins.

    Regarding lead bullets, I'm liking the powder coating thing pretty well. No lube required. No need for gas checks with subsonic loads. And powder coating is EZPZ. I use sandwich sized plastic containers to coat the bullets in, small forceps to grab them and set them on the non stick aluminum foil, and a cheap toaster oven to bake them. And you can surface harden by dumping the hot coated bullets in cold water. Don't know how you feel about casting bullets, but it's an easy process, too.

    And Trail Boss is a good way to get subsonic with a full case of powder without worrying about pressure spikes from small charges of smokeless powder.
    Link on "How To" for loading ANY cartridge with Trail Boss Powder.
    http://www.imrpowder.com/PDF/Trail-Boss-data.pdf

    Don't wanna cast your own, then buy them unlubed:

    http://westernbullet.com/30caliber.html

    Don't want to powder coat the unlubed bullets yourself; no problem:

    http://missouribullet.com/results.php?category=6

    No excuses now; I looked it all up for you! Now get to work and report back on your results, please!

    Thank you. And I'm ****. Wrong URL.

    http://hunters-supply.com/shop/311-cal-238-p-1179.html?osCsid=kga5l4gsr5r098klcp4bl9s0p2
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,557 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    I like the ARESDefense stock, but not to the tune of 5 Benjamins.

    Regarding lead bullets, I'm liking the powder coating thing pretty well. No lube required. No need for gas checks with subsonic loads. And powder coating is EZPZ. I use sandwich sized plastic containers to coat the bullets in, small forceps to grab them and set them on the non stick aluminum foil, and a cheap toaster oven to bake them. And you can surface harden by dumping the hot coated bullets in cold water. Don't know how you feel about casting bullets, but it's an easy process, too.

    And Trail Boss is a good way to get subsonic with a full case of powder without worrying about pressure spikes from small charges of smokeless powder.
    Link on "How To" for loading ANY cartridge with Trail Boss Powder.
    http://www.imrpowder.com/PDF/Trail-Boss-data.pdf

    Don't wanna cast your own, then buy them unlubed:

    http://westernbullet.com/30caliber.html

    Don't want to powder coat the unlubed bullets yourself; no problem:

    http://missouribullet.com/results.php?category=6

    No excuses now; I looked it all up for you! Now get to work and report back on your results, please!

    As to casting..yes. I want to cast my own, but it'd be only for .30cal and .44cal. And in don't shoot the .44mag rifle much anyhow. I can't justify the expense and real estate on my work bench for an essentially one caliber casting operation.

    As for the dry lube/baking....I could do that. I meant I don't want to wax lube bullets.
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,557 Senior Member
    Then there are these folks...

    http://www.outlawstatebullets.com/2.html

    I have an unused stripped upper... must... resist... 300BLK...
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
  • toymachinetoymachine Senior Member Posts: 761 Senior Member
    JasonMPD wrote: »
    Then there are these folks...

    http://www.outlawstatebullets.com/2.html

    I have an unused stripped upper... must... resist... 300BLK...

    Yeah, save those .223 cases for 22TCM.
    "Is 'milk bottle' literally a racist term?"
    "It is now." - Jack Fraggs
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 21,087 Senior Member
    JasonMPD wrote: »
    I used to work off-shore with one of the two brothers that own/started that company. He used to bring samples out with him. They're some impressive looking bullets, EXPENSIVE, :yikes: but impressive looking.
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • sakodudesakodude Senior Member Posts: 3,890 Senior Member
    JasonMPD wrote: »
    When the second coming of Jesus occurs and he brings with him cradled in his arms the only bottle of Trailboss left in the universe, I'm going to work up a fun SS 308 load. I've read some quite lengthy articles about jacketed bullets and SS loads as a safety issue.

    Basically, pressure spikes in SS loads are more rapid than in supersonic loads due to fast burning powders being used. Lead bullets or lube coated jacketed bullets are recommended. But I'm not messing around with lubing bullets.

    http://hunters-supply.com/shop/311-cal-238-p-1179.html?osCsid=kga5l4gsr5r098klcp4bl9s0p2

    These look tempting. Suggestions? Gas check or no with subsonic 308?

    He apparently stopped by here first, one of my LGS's had 2 bottles when I stopped by this afternoon:tooth:

    Sako
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,395 Senior Member
    JasonMPD wrote: »

    Looks like a heavy borerider bullet. :up:
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