What cartridges have you taken deer with?

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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,833 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    Dagnabbit! I forgot to add the .30-30 AI from last year as well.

    What's the difference in the regular 6.5-06 and an A Square? I've been on the long range hunting forum and there's some there that prefer the big 7mms to the 6.5s so I'm not sure which way to go. If I had more donor actions I'd build one of both, but that's just not going to be possible for the time.

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    Daddy, what's an enabler?
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  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,082 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    What's the difference in the regular 6.5-06 and an A Square? I've been on the long range hunting forum and there's some there that prefer the big 7mms to the 6.5s so I'm not sure which way to go. If I had more donor actions I'd build one of both, but that's just not going to be possible for the time.

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    6.5-06 is the wildcat with possible changes in shoulder angle and such, the A Square is just the iteration that A-square standardized for SAAMI.
    Overkill is underrated.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,833 Senior Member
    6.5-06 is the wildcat with possible changes in shoulder angle and such, the A Square is just the iteration that A-square standardized for SAAMI.

    Ah ok, so neither is like an AI where the case taper has been blown out? In other words they're probably both close in capacity to an 06 Case???
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,833 Senior Member
    Never mind, I searched the AI version. It looks about like the A Square. There's a bunch of em around, but what surprised me was they barrel twist rates they're working with and the light bullets. If it's me I would build it with a 1:8 twist. A lot of them I saw were 1:9s and they complained that they couldn't get 140 grains to stabilize.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • shootbrownelkshootbrownelk Senior Member Posts: 2,023 Senior Member
    How does the 6.5/06 compare to the 6.5/284 and the 6.5 creedmoor ballistics-wise?
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 6,981 Senior Member
    6.5-06 has a slight velocity edge over the 6.5-284 (Close to being a ballistic twin) and the Creed is basically a twin to the 260 Rem, but just below MV wise
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,564 Senior Member
    6.5-06 has a slight velocity edge over the 6.5-284 (Close to being a ballistic twin) and the Creed is basically a twin to the 260 Rem, but just below MV wise

    What he said.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,564 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    Never mind, I searched the AI version. It looks about like the A Square. There's a bunch of em around, but what surprised me was they barrel twist rates they're working with and the light bullets. If it's me I would build it with a 1:8 twist. A lot of them I saw were 1:9s and they complained that they couldn't get 140 grains to stabilize.

    My 6.5-06 barrel will have a 1-8" Twist. My current 6.5-284 Win barrel has a 1-9" Twist and shoots 140 A-Max bullets rather well. I do wish it had a 1-8" Twist, though. But, it doesn't seem to care.

    Both my .260 Remingtons have a 1-8" Twist.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 6,981 Senior Member
    The 140 A-Max's have long worked in a 9T barrels (even in SP's) where as the 140 Berger VLD's are not as likely to be stabilized compared to the A-Max.
    snake284 wrote: »
    Never mind, I searched the AI version. It looks about like the A Square. There's a bunch of em around, but what surprised me was they barrel twist rates they're working with and the light bullets. If it's me I would build it with a 1:8 twist. A lot of them I saw were 1:9s and they complained that they couldn't get 140 grains to stabilize.
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,833 Senior Member
    The 140 A-Max's have long worked in a 9T barrels (even in SP's) where as the 140 Berger VLD's are not as likely to be stabilized compared to the A-Max.

    Yeah that confirms what I read on the long range sites that the Berger's needed a tighter twist it seemed. But if I'm building a truly dedicated long range hunter, I'm going to do all I can to build it to stabilize heavier bullets. Either GO BIG or STAY HOME! Or rather stay within 300-400 yards.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • bobbyrlf3bobbyrlf3 Senior Member Posts: 2,465 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    My goal next year is to add the following cartridges to my existing list.

    6.5-06 A-Square
    .357 Mag
    .445 Super Mag
    .45 Colt
    and maybe a wildcat .44cal that some Jackass has designed.

    If I can accomplish all those, it'll be a good year.
    Whoa, wait, What?!?!?!? You have a .445 Super Mag?!?!?

    Use that one FIRST!! Pleaseopleaseoplease!! I would love to see the results you get with that......

    I am slightly interested in that chambering, as I still have another handgun coming to me this year and my available choices are changing while I struggle to make up my mind.
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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,564 Senior Member
    bobbyrlf3 wrote: »
    Whoa, wait, What?!?!?!? You have a .445 Super Mag?!?!?

    Use that one FIRST!! Pleaseopleaseoplease!! I would love to see the results you get with that......

    I am slightly interested in that chambering, as I still have another handgun coming to me this year and my available choices are changing while I struggle to make up my mind.

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    Got it last Christmas. Didn't really get it ready in time for much hunting last season. Don't worry.........it's high on the list.

    It's awesome!
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,833 Senior Member
    I want to take a deer with my .357 Mag. Model 586 Smith & Wesson. I know that with its 8 3/8" barrel and long sight plane, out to 50 yards it's nearly an automatic deal. It's got excellent sights on it with a partridge front sight, slightly modified, and is deadly to 50 yards and maybe as far as 100. If I can manage to do my part, this dream will become a reality.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • RazorbackerRazorbacker Senior Member Posts: 4,646 Senior Member
    Sounds like a nice pistol Mike. I'd love to see a picture of it.
    I killed a fat doe with my 19 years ago. A 4 incher. It wasn't a plan, she just stepped out, a target of opportunity. I can't swear on the bullet but in those days I feel certain it would have been a 158 grain JHP. But it was probably less than 50 yards. More likely less than 30.
    But if the plan is out to 100. I'd get me a load for a heavy hardcast. And start it screaming.
    Just food for thought.
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,833 Senior Member
    Sounds like a nice pistol Mike. I'd love to see a picture of it.
    I killed a fat doe with my 19 years ago. A 4 incher. It wasn't a plan, she just stepped out, a target of opportunity. I can't swear on the bullet but in those days I feel certain it would have been a 158 grain JHP. But it was probably less than 50 yards. More likely less than 30.
    But if the plan is out to 100. I'd get me a load for a heavy hardcast. And start it screaming.
    Just food for thought.

    Here ya go Tracy, not the best picture but this is her.

    This one has an 8 3/8" barrel.

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    I've had it for 32 years and it still looks great.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • RazorbackerRazorbacker Senior Member Posts: 4,646 Senior Member
    That's a nice one
    Teach your children to love guns, they'll never be able to afford drugs
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,833 Senior Member
    Some say it's a little clubby because of that barrel, but I don't mind it and it helps me steady it. I am NO HAND GUN SPECIALIST! But I can actually shoot this thing pretty good. This and my Springfield Armory 1911 45 ACP. But they both have good triggers and just happen to fit my hand.

    Actually, I could be a fairly decent hand gun shooter, IF I'D PRACTICE! But shooting hand guns doesn't really turn my crank. I think of them as tools more than sporting arms and I just stay proficient enough to hit BG. And I can do that. But every once in a while there's a hand gun that tickles me a little more and this one was one of them.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • bobbyrlf3bobbyrlf3 Senior Member Posts: 2,465 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
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    Got it last Christmas. Didn't really get it ready in time for much hunting last season. Don't worry.........it's high on the list.

    It's awesome!

    Would you use that bullet, or do you have something else in mind? Details matter in science....
    Knowledge is essential to living freely and fully; understanding gives knowledge purpose and strength; wisdom is combining the two and applying them appropriately in words and actions.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,564 Senior Member
    bobbyrlf3 wrote: »
    Would you use that bullet, or do you have something else in mind? Details matter in science....

    Yes. I will be hunting with that 325gr WFN-GC bullet.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • HvyMaxHvyMax Senior Member Posts: 1,786 Senior Member
    For my first 30 years after the 8mm Mauser one I used 45 modern Minnies out of either my Kentucky rifle or pistol. The last few years I have added 12ga slugs to the mix.
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    Reason for editing: correcting my auto correct
  • JeeperJeeper Senior Member Posts: 2,952 Senior Member
    .308, .44mag, .45-70, .12ga (00buck)

    Hoping to add .357 mag to the list this year.

    Luis
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  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior Member Posts: 6,516 Senior Member
    bobbyrlf3 wrote: »
    Whoa, wait, What?!?!?!? You have a .445 Super Mag?!?!?

    .

    Zee's got one of everything, and two or more of most. Or will have before the game's over.
    Jerry

    Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,617 Senior Member
    .308 and .30-06
  • bobbyrlf3bobbyrlf3 Senior Member Posts: 2,465 Senior Member
    HvyMax wrote: »
    For my first 30 years after the 8mm Mauser one I used 45 modern Minnies out of either my Kentucky rifle or pistol. The last few years I have added 12ga slugs to the mix.

    Do you get to use modern rifle in MD? I'm from Delaware, and last I knew of the regs, you couldn't use rifles in any significant caliber there; only shotguns and BP.
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  • bobbyrlf3bobbyrlf3 Senior Member Posts: 2,465 Senior Member
    JerryBobCo wrote: »
    Zee's got one of everything, and two or more of most. Or will have before the game's over.

    Apparently. Maybe he should write a book and call it "Winning".
    Knowledge is essential to living freely and fully; understanding gives knowledge purpose and strength; wisdom is combining the two and applying them appropriately in words and actions.
  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior Member Posts: 6,516 Senior Member
    bobbyrlf3 wrote: »
    Apparently. Maybe he should write a book and call it "Winning".

    Kind of reminds me of a line by comedian Steven Wright.

    "You can't have everything. Where would you put it?"
    Jerry

    Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
  • artart New Member Posts: 20 New Member
    12 gauge
    .50 mz patched round ball
    .50 inline
    .357
    .44 mag
    45/70
    .460 mag
    30-06
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,564 Senior Member
    So, here is my 2016 updated list.

    (deer sized game)

    .223 Rem
    .22-250
    .6x45 AR
    .243 Win
    .25-06 Rem
    .260 Rem
    6.5-06 A-Square
    .270 Win
    7mm-08 Rem
    .280 Rem
    7mm Rem Mag
    7mm RUM
    .30-30 Win
    .30-30 Ackley Improved
    .308 Win
    .30-06 Spr
    .300 Win Mag
    .300 RUM
    .357 Magnum
    .35 Rem
    .358 Winchester
    .375 Ruger
    .44 Mag
    .445 Super Mag
    .430 SJS
    .45 Colt

    .454 Casull
    .460 Smith & Wesson Mag
    .45-70
    .458 Win Mag

    20gr (Buck)
    12ga (Buck/Slug)

    The cartridges in red are the new additions from last season.





    This year, I hope to add .338-06 A-Square, .338 Win Mag, and .404 Jeffery to the list.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,833 Senior Member
    I'm pretty boring compared to most of you.

    .270
    .30-06
    .300 Weatherby Mag.

    Oh you're not as boring as you think. You can start a real POO Storm with that list.

    :rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,833 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    Oh you're not as boring as you think. You can start a real POO Storm with that list.

    :rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:

    I only killed one deer this year myself, and I used a gun I'd already blooded, my Yugo Mauser sporterized and re-barreled to .257 AI about three years back. I really love it for deer, and that was my third deer I've taken with it. The first year I had it I killed a doe at about 180 yards with it.

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    Last year I killed another doe with it. I shot it going away from me at about 40 yards and I was trying to aim for the back of the neck. But it was moving and I was bobbing up and down trying to get on her I guess so I hit it in the Butt (where the spoon handle is).

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    It bled out in the brush. I hit a main artery in her back upper leg.

    Then the deer this year was a small nubber buck that I thought was a doe at about 150 yards moving from my left to my right across the Sendero. I hit it in the right front leg and into the vitals and she limped along out of sight behind another mott of trees and died out in the open. Where I hunt it's the perfect rifle. With Combined Technologies 115 grain Silver Ballistic Tips it's a death ray. It hurls the 115 grain at right at 3,000 FPS.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
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