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Is anybody listening to Donald Trump?

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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    Jayhawker wrote: »
    I don't have problem one with a successful businessman as POTUS...at least the man can think on his feet, and is smart enough to surround himself with the best in the business....whatever that business is....it would be a breath of fresh air, compared to the current occupant of the White House who has difficulty finding his ass with both hands and believes in the concept of promoting the incompetent...

    YEAH
    Me too! We've even had a peanut farmer, an actor, and a General, plus a few crooks, why not a successful business man? And I don't think we have to worry about him. He's already got all the money anybody would want. If he got in there and kick started things, and got rid of about half the regulation and told the old burnt out hippies to take a seat in the back and wait til he pulls their chain, we might get to be as great as we once were. One thing I believe would happen, Iran, ISIS, Al Qeda and Putin would probably get real quiet come inauguration day.
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  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 22,419 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    Is anybody listening to Donald Trump?
    No
    :nono:
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  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,679 Senior Member
    The other thing about Trump is that he *is* a successful businessman - unlike Fiorina!
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    mohican wrote: »
    He's for Donald. Not that there is a whole lot of altruism in DC, but I don't want to hear a president refer to himself in third person. Beyond that, he understands finances but does he understand industry/manufacturing? not that makes someone a good president but fixing economy would truly mean bringing back manufacturing which drove "the middle class". I don't know how many pols realize that.....

    Every last one of those candidates on both sides of the aisle are for themselves primarily. Oh sure, if they can make life better for us while helping themselves, Great! They'll be happy to oblige, but that's not their first goal. Never was, never will be.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
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  • horselipshorselips Senior Member Posts: 3,628 Senior Member
    A past President once said, "the business of America is business!" And he was right. It's business, and nothing else, that generates the wealth we need to waste on profligate liberalism. And there are few better businessmen than The Donald. His self-promotion is minor league compared to the narcissism of Obama, the self-entitlement of Hillary, and the self-righteousness of Sanders. I find Trump a breathe of fresh air, and his track record says he'll do what he says he will do.

    I can see Trump's America a hard-charging economic and military super-state, far beyond mere superpower status, basking in the bright glow of Exceptionalism, redefined and magnified as never before. I see the victim industry kicked to the curb, no excuses accepted, and people making it because they can, and because they have no other choice. I see a richer, more powerful, freer and safer country, a true Novus Ordo Seclorum.

    I will definitely be keeping an eye on his campaign.
  • N320AWN320AW Senior Member Posts: 648 Senior Member
    What this country needs is CHANGE!

    Me feels Trump would do that. There are no other candidates that tweak me.
  • GunnerK19GunnerK19 Senior Member Posts: 1,090 Senior Member
    horselips wrote: »
    A past President once said, "the business of America is business!" And he was right. It's business, and nothing else, that generates the wealth we need to waste on profligate liberalism. And there are few better businessmen than The Donald. His self-promotion is minor league compared to the narcissism of Obama, the self-entitlement of Hillary, and the self-righteousness of Sanders. I find Trump a breathe of fresh air, and his track record says he'll do what he says he will do.

    I can see Trump's America a hard-charging economic and military super-state, far beyond mere superpower status, basking in the bright glow of Exceptionalism, redefined and magnified as never before. I see the victim industry kicked to the curb, no excuses accepted, and people making it because they can, and because they have no other choice. I see a richer, more powerful, freer and safer country, a true Novus Ordo Seclorum.

    I will definitely be keeping an eye on his campaign.

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  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,208 Senior Member
    zorba wrote: »
    The other thing about Trump is that he *is* a successful businessman - unlike Fiorina!
    We had Romney. He was legitimately a successful businessman. Trump? He has led his businesses to bankruptcy on four occasions now. And he is on a reality show. Piss on him.
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  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,208 Senior Member
    I am actually embarrassed for anyone that seriously considers Trump. Four years ago, he pulled the same crap and it was an obvious publicity stunt. Then he was big on that whole "birther" thing with Obama.

    It is kind of sad to watch actually.
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  • horselipshorselips Senior Member Posts: 3,628 Senior Member
    The one thing I would say is that win or lose, he will be entertaining. Plus mybe he'll find a way for the country to file chapter 11 and come out ahead? He's got plenty of experience with that!

    A better idea than you might think. A national bankruptcy, along with the necessary new laws to make it all legal, just might free us of those trillions and trillions and trillions of unfunded liabilities. And after a national bankruptcy, nobody will loan Washington a dime for the next hundred years. We could pay off any national debt we couldn't discharge, like money we owe to foreign g'ments, and the Feds would be forced to live within their means. If Washington wanted more revenue, it would have to actually encourage more business and protect more freedom to get it. The progressive agenda? Forget about it. And you eco-chondriacs - your calls will not be returned. Community organizers and welfare rights agitators? It's too late for them too. Gun control? No money left for that. I'm beginning to look at a national bankruptcy as a bloodless second American Revolution, only this time with valuable lessons learned for the future.
  • Fat BillyFat Billy Senior Member Posts: 1,813 Senior Member
    Trump has no chance of winning but he will serve up all the dirt and corruption the Democraps have been up to and continue to do. This will allow the other candidates to use the material with out being blamed for bringing it up. He can help destroy Hildebeast. I agree with some of his concepts but he hasn't realized the President can't do everything themselves as Oblivit is learning slowly. IMHO :nono: Later,
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    He got the attention of every political pundit on all the TV yak yak shows and some of the Rep front runners in the top 10, as well.

    They all need to be shook up some and get busy with plans to make America better, not just the same ole Milk Toast rhetoric they spew along party lines.

    We don't necessarily need a Rep or Dem approach to our issues facing America, we need solutions that are feasible and will work.
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    N320AW wrote: »
    What this country needs is CHANGE!

    Me feels Trump would do that. There are no other candidates that tweak me.

    Amen! You got that right. We need a change.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    Big Chief wrote: »
    He got the attention of every political pundit on all the TV yak yak shows and some of the Rep front runners in the top 10, as well.

    They all need to be shook up some and get busy with plans to make America better, not just the same ole Milk Toast rhetoric they spew along party lines.

    We don't necessarily need a Rep or Dem approach to our issues facing America, we need solutions that are feasible and will work.

    Chief, I agree, but the solutions the Dems come up with usually create more problems without doing anything to alleviate the real problem. Take Food Stamps. That should be a one or two time deal to get somebody by a hard time until he/she can get another job. It shouldn't be a way of life.

    Same with any sort of welfare. Social Security and Medicare are retirement programs, not welfare programs, that were set up for people who paid into them. Medicaid was like food stamps, for people with little or no income to get them by a period without work. It was never meant to be a way of life. Republicans should be creating legislation that would get people off these supposedly temporary programs and into jobs.

    Also, when somebody doesn't have a job it gives them more time to be doing things like drugs and drinking excessively, which are counter productive to someone being gainfully employed. A job serves more purposes than giving someone income. It gives them sense of purpose, it gives them self worth and self respect. And it gives them something to keep their minds occupied with a useful vocation.

    That should be the difference in the Dummycrap strategy and the Republican strategy. We need to get back to that strategy. I don't see anyway that the Dummycraps would get on that band wagon since it doesn't get them immediate votes, which is what they seem to be about.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • AntonioAntonio Senior Member Posts: 2,986 Senior Member
    View from abroad:

    Few local politicians know the guy and most who do, have a bad opinion of him because he's "a millionaire" and "a businessman", so I'm starting to like him as a candidate.

    Republican, rich, businessman, cocky and outspoken.....why we don't get such kind of candidates here?? I'd vote for the man.....if I could :wink:
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    Fat Billy wrote: »
    Trump has no chance of winning but he will serve up all the dirt and corruption the Democraps have been up to and continue to do. This will allow the other candidates to use the material with out being blamed for bringing it up. He can help destroy Hildebeast. I agree with some of his concepts but he hasn't realized the President can't do everything themselves as Oblivit is learning slowly. IMHO :nono: Later,

    You got that right Billy! Maybe that was Trumps main reason for running in the first place, thinking that even though he probably won't win, at least he can help show how destructive the Dummycraps policies are. But if he does win, well that's just icing on the cake. He has a win win situation by running.

    But I will tell you that if it looks like he has a chance, I will think hard about voting for him. I like what he says so we shall see.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    Antonio wrote: »
    View from abroad:

    Few local politicians know the guy and most who do, have a bad opinion of him because he's "a millionaire" and "a businessman", so I'm starting to like him as a candidate.

    Republican, rich, businessman, cocky and outspoken.....why we don't get such kind of candidates here?? I'd vote for the man.....if I could :wink:

    Well come on up! We can use your vote. We'll get you citizenized and voting. We need more Latinos voting Conservative.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Or he can come in Illegally and the Dems will get him to the polls on election day so he wouldn't be "Disenfranchised" :yikes: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    If he brings the RINOs to the middle I'm all for Him staying in...

    Yes I agree Gator. I think whether he's a viable candidate or not, his entry into the race will serve some purpose.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    Big Chief wrote: »
    Or he can come in Illegally and the Dems will get him to the polls on election day so he wouldn't be "Disenfranchised" :yikes: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

    No No No!!! That is NOT the intention I meant. If that was the case I'd say "Stay Home Antonio!" :tooth::tooth::tooth:But I think Antonio will make a good, conservative citizen. :wink:
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
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  • mohicanmohican Member Posts: 381 Member
    I used to think that a successful businessman could make a successful president. Now I think History tends to indicate otherwise. People that were effective governors (or good generals) make the transition to POTUS
  • Gator MonroeGator Monroe Banned Posts: 655 Senior Member
    I would vote for Trump over (Hillery or ANY Democrat) (Christie) (Grahmnesty) (Bush) (Paul) (Carson)
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    I would vote for Trump over (Hillery or ANY Democrat) (Christie) (Grahmnesty) (Bush) (Paul) (Carson)

    My jury is still out, but I believe Trump is in the mix for me. He and Bush are the only two I've heard say all the things I want to hear.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    My jury is still out, but I believe Trump is in the mix for me. He and Bush are the only two I've heard say all the things I want to hear.

    I like Ben Carson a lot, but as he himself admits, he's no politician. Well I'll add to that, he lacks a lot of experience and his 2A knowledge needs to be tuned up. But he's a good conservative and if he got elected I wouldn't cry.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • Gator MonroeGator Monroe Banned Posts: 655 Senior Member
    2A/RTKBA early straight up total throw it all out there commitment (Check) Really Securing the Border & deporting criminal Illegals (Check) So far Trump has Trumped the RINOs & Establishment types .
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    2A/RTKBA early straight up total throw it all out there commitment (Check) Really Securing the Border & deporting criminal Illegals (Check) So far Trump has Trumped the RINOs & Establishment types .

    Yes, and Trump really gets the 2A, something Ben Carson hasn't gotten up to speed on yet. I believe that Carson really believes Law Abiding Citizens should not be penalized for the criminal's actions, but he made a statement about not seeing a need for Semi Auto Rifles in a city. I don't think he has thought this through yet.

    You can't put limits on different locals and still have true freedom. It's like you can't do something like that without somebody coming back later and applying a law like that to something irrelevant. In other words, you can't say, thou shall not do that here, but it's ok over there. It's like Gun Free Zones. They don't work. They just invite the criminal in because he knows nobody that obeys the law is going to have a gun.

    And down the road, when everybody has forgotten why that law was made in the first place, somebody will apply it to a situation that doesn't compute. Like, "We don't need these Semi Auto Rifles, deer don't shoot back so a bolt gun is fine. And besides, they're already illegal in the city." They catch the unknowing asleep and take away more rights. You can't pass laws that give the antis any leverage. So Ben Carson, although I like him, is way down on my list.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • AntonioAntonio Senior Member Posts: 2,986 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    No No No!!! That is NOT the intention I meant. If that was the case I'd say "Stay Home Antonio!" :tooth::tooth::tooth:But I think Antonio will make a good, conservative citizen. :wink:

    Easy boys, never intended to "arrive uninvited", nor to be an "overstaying guest"....that would be completely inconsistent with my personal believes. Would like to migrate? Probably yes, but under proper living & working conditions; thankfully at least the wife has a "gipsy spirit" (From her father's side) and wouldn't care to pack and move once again. Meanwhile, it's still somewhat fun to live in the surreal sub-tropics!

    Already forced to compulsive voting here, so I'd make a good, consistent voter over there. How conservative? (Although I see myself more like a Libertarian) For me the NRA is a tad pinko, so go figure.....:wink:

    The Trump being a decoy for Democrats seems like a good strategy, since they'll probably waste their energy and hate drive towards a rich man that doesn't handle them money and has a loud mouth. With Hillary being a presidential possibility, I don't think the histrionic Trump seems as a bad option after all.
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,702 Senior Member
    When did Trump start to fully embrace the second amendment? He's on record as being against "assault weapons," wants to extend the waiting period on rifles on shotguns, and while he says he's against gun control, that is preceded by the lawyer weasel-word "generally." Which means if he wants to, he can justify "some" gun control.

    Also, I've seen it mentioned that Trump is a self-made millionaire. Not really true. He got his start by renovating and managing multimillion-dollar properties his dad had purchased. Nothing wrong with that, but that to my mind isn't really being "self-made." I knew a plumber who moved to central Florida with a truck and some fittings. He grew that company to a multimillion-dollar mechanical contractors company (plumbing, HVAC) that has done work for several high-dollar and profile clients.

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  • HvyMaxHvyMax Senior Member Posts: 1,826 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    He just officially threw his hat in the ring. He's solid 2A, I didn't realize that. He's a bit arrogant, yeah I know, understatement, but I do love what he's saying! What are your thoughts???

    I agree completely. He is the only one that isn't a lying sack of politician.
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  • LanceLance Member Posts: 149 Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    I am actually embarrassed for anyone that seriously considers Trump. Four years ago, he pulled the same crap and it was an obvious publicity stunt. Then he was big on that whole "birther" thing with Obama.

    It is kind of sad to watch actually.

    +1,000

    Are people forgetting Trump's "shocking disclosure" he paid to air a few weeks before the '12 election?

    Not only was it BS, Obama's polling #'s actually went up after it was aired.

    This guy is bad news.
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