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How Much Hard Fought Ground have we given up in the last 7 years?

snake284snake284 Senior MemberPosts: 22,351 Senior Member
How much ground have we given up in the last 7 years because of a weak administration with socialist tendencies?

Now Greece is about to go under due to its socialistic government. Like Maggie Thatcher said, "Socialism works great until you run out of other people's money!"

Let's have a good discussion here. I know there's some interesting perspectives on this forum.:usa::usa::usa:
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  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 22,984 Senior Member
    As Churchill once said "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.".

    Or to use a word used mostly by Liberals, it (Socialism) is 'unsustainable'. I fail to see what the attraction is to a large segment of the American populace - what was the cold war about again? Socialist Europe is sinking fast, Socialist Russia is in economic ruin, and these fools want to embrace this failed system?

    Ya got me...
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  • N320AWN320AW Senior Member Posts: 648 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    How much ground have we given up in the last 7 years because of a weak administration with socialist tendencies?

    Now Greece is about to go under due to its socialistic government. Like Maggie Thatcher said, "Socialism works great until you run out of other people's money!"

    Let's have a good discussion here. I know there's some interesting perspectives on this forum.:usa::usa::usa:

    As far as I am concerned Donald Trump is right on. Yesterday NBC booted him out of his TV show because of his rant against Mexicans coming into this country by the droves. Trump basically said that the political correctness in this country is what is causing this country to continue to go down the drain on many issues. I totally agree, although I'm still not convinced Trump would be a good President.

    That said, we need to face up to the problems we've been having and try to do something to correct this, and take the USA back to post WW-II prosperity as well as ethics.
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    He (Trump) gained some points by saying the illegals are what Mexico doesn't want. Not all are bad people, but they lost my respect from the get-go by breaking our country's laws by sneaking in. There is a legal process to be a guest worker and applying for citizenship instead of hoping the open border types can finagle something that allows them to stay if they get in.

    If they are capable of not caring about our immigration laws and entry laws in the first place, what else will they think it is OK to ignore after they are here?


    He lost a lot of points too by saying what he did they way he said it. He could have phrased it somewhat differently and not closed the door to some voters coming off as brutish and uncaring. Even though he was right. One of those deals when you know the truth, but will have to tiptoe around as you speak it, sad as it is to call a spade a spade.
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  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    Mexico is not what Donald Trump thinks it to be.
    Mexico is a very corrupt country, having spoken to many Mexicans, I believe most Mexicans to be law abiding people, however the system of government in Mexico is so corrupt as to negate much good. Think of a government where everything requires a bribe, everyday actions require bribery and graft, thieves operate with police approval, and they do not arrest the criminals, they seize innocents and beat a confession out of them or into them depending on your point of view.
    So, given how oppressive life in Mexico is, is it any wonder that they are willing to break many laws to flee to the relative freedom of our country?
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  • AntonioAntonio Senior Member Posts: 2,595 Senior Member
    DoctorWho wrote: »
    Mexico is not what Donald Trump thinks it to be.
    Mexico is a very corrupt country, having spoken to many Mexicans, I believe most Mexicans to be law abiding people, however the system of government in Mexico is so corrupt as to negate much good. Think of a government where everything requires a bribe, everyday actions require bribery and graft, thieves operate with police approval, and they do not arrest the criminals, they seize innocents and beat a confession out of them or into them depending on your point of view.
    So, given how oppressive life in Mexico is, is it any wonder that they are willing to break many laws to flee to the relative freedom of our country?

    Yeah, I know the drill....unfortunately that's how most of S.A. works in almost every life's aspect, specially when dealing with the state itself.

    Problem is that quite a few S.A. immigrants not only break the law by either entering or staying without proper authorization, but they also reproduce the same living conditions & distorted social interactions that drove them out of their countries the 1st. time, becoming even more "alien" that they're already are.

    Currently most of S.A. has been in some form of "21th. century socialism" political rule and in all instances living conditions have worsened (In some cases like Argentina and Venezuela an awful lot), but populist leaders & regimes have kept power by wasting states' money and attacking the "common suspects" (Neighbors, free press, "speculators", the "rich", political opposition, church, Imperialism, you....) while behaving pretty much like Greece has, but playing with the facts that local populations seem like a lot more resourceful than their European counterparts, are used to live with A LOT less material resources, and don't have a rich bunch of partners bailing them out of financial collapse every time.
  • HvyMaxHvyMax Senior Member Posts: 1,786 Senior Member
    America pretty much committed suicide 7 years ago. Our system was only suitable for a moral and educated population so we have completed Tyler's Cycle.
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    HvyMax wrote: »
    America pretty much committed suicide 7 years ago. Our system was only suitable for a moral and educated population so we have completed Tyler's Cycle.

    It is the: The Tytler Cycle

    http://commonsensegovernment.com/the-tytler-cycle-revisited/
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