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Yulee Boy
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Glock 19 Concealed Carry
Yulee Boy
MemberPosts: 37 Member
Good Morning Gents!
I am very close to making a purchase on a Glock 19 probably Gen 3. My intent is to have a very simple, very reliable, high capacity pistol that I can conceal but that can still be fairly accurate at longer ranges. I have a pocket gun and I have a full size. I'm really wanting the middle ground.
My question is for those who have had experience with concealing the 19 in particular. How difficult is it to conceal? Is it more the height and length that cause issues or the width? And have any of you tried appendix carry with it?
For reference, I'm 6'0" 195lbs and I live in the south. So summers means shorts and a polo. Thanks for any input!!
I am very close to making a purchase on a Glock 19 probably Gen 3. My intent is to have a very simple, very reliable, high capacity pistol that I can conceal but that can still be fairly accurate at longer ranges. I have a pocket gun and I have a full size. I'm really wanting the middle ground.
My question is for those who have had experience with concealing the 19 in particular. How difficult is it to conceal? Is it more the height and length that cause issues or the width? And have any of you tried appendix carry with it?
For reference, I'm 6'0" 195lbs and I live in the south. So summers means shorts and a polo. Thanks for any input!!
"There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." - George Washington
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The Glock 19 conceals well, consider the sub compact Glock 26, neither model is a pocket gun by any means, both are better suited for conventional holster on a belt carry.
With the sub compact Glock 26, you can use the Glock 26 magazines or the Glock 19 magazines, installing a spacer that makes the grip area of the Glock 26 the same size as a Glock 19, and you can still use all the other magazines, such as Glock 17, or Glock 18, 30 round magazines.
You get the best of all worlds with the Glock 26 as it passes for a sub compact model completing the family, the full size Glock 17,.. and the medium 19, the sub compact Glock 26, as it accepts magazines of all the other double column 9mm models.......yet it's just as accurate as it's larger brothers.
Yes , for overall versatility, and ease of carry, the Glock 26 is the big winner......however, If you prefer a single column slim profile 9mm, then the Glock 43 is something to consider, however, you will lose the versatility of being able to use an entire series of double column 9mm magazines......
Go to your stocking LGS and heft and compare the Glock 26, the Glock 19,. the Glock 17,. So you can get a better idea, best idea is to shoot them all.
A good quality IWB holster, a good quality belt, and you can still wear shorts and a sports shirt as a cover garment...
BTW, and FYI, although some folks really prefer a Gen lll, you don't save any money on a Gen lll over a Gen lV, you get an extra magazine and the improved captured recoil spring with a Gen lV..... a better value overall IMHO..
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/781054/511-appendix-inside-the-waistband-holster-right-hand-glock-19-23-26-27-kydex-black?cm_vc=wishList
Very comfortable and seems to work decently. Nobody at the grocery store freaked out last night. I wore shorts and a T-Shirt with this holster. Only portion that ever so slightly printed was the butt of the gun.
It's an option for you.
The 17/22 can be carried fine that way if you're a larger guy, but the 19/23 with the slightly shorter butt is probably the better all-around compromise. It still holds a bunch of ammo and can still mount a light.
The Gen 4 has a very slightly smaller grip than the Gen 3 when none of the add-on backstraps are installed. Since double stacks are pretty much all too fat for a really proper grip with folks that don't play in the NBA, this is attractive. The improved recoil spring of the Gen 4 is mainly an upgrade for the .40 caliber - which was mainly an wear and tear issue in the older 22. In the 9mm's, not nearly as much a concern.
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
I will not lose any sleep over it.
If you wear cargo pants, you can probably carry one of the sub-compact Glocks, uncomfortably in your pocket.
I sure did not.
I am sure I never have.
First, I prefer to carry IWB. With shorts and an untucked t-shirt, I don't have an issue concealing the handgun IF MY CLOTHES ARE PROPERLY SIZED. That means pants big enough to comfortably fit the handgun inside my waistband, and a shirt 1-2 sizes larger to allow sufficient "hang" to cover the firearm without printing. Patterns are good as they mask any printing.
In a holster I like a sweat guard to both protect the firearm and to act as a bit of a spacer to make grasping the handgun easier. I also prefer molded leather or kydex, and tend to prefer holsters that stay somewhat open after drawing the weapon so I can reholster with only one hand. Likewise I prefer a stiff belt to keep things in place.
You say your height and weight, but what's your build? In my experience folks who are more pear-shaped will tend to have a harder time carrying a handgun than those who are shaped like an apple, tube, or inverted triangle: the clothing on pear shaped folks gets pulled over the gun more and prints as compared to those who the other body shapes. Yeah, I know some don't carry about printing, but in some circles it matters, and I figured concealed means concealed.
No opinion on appendix carry. I will say that I'm not a fan of subcompacts in general unless they're single-stack. To my mind if you're carrying a subcompact double-stack you've got no barrel or grip but all the girth of a compact, full-size, or midsize, but lose the advantages. IWB I've not had an issue with barrel or butt length. In a subcompact single-stack you can pocket carry some models and that makes sense.
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There might be some in here that you find useful...
http://www.armslist.com/classifieds/search?location=north-carolina&category=guns&tag=9mm-luger&tag=glock
BTW, you've got IM.
I would like to know if anyone has experience with the Gen 4s specifically? I know a few of you suggested them, but I heard that the new recoil spring was causing reliability issues when they first came out. Has that been resolved? That was my primary reason for looking at Gen 3. I like the Gen 4 better from just my limited experience, but I'm not about to risk sacrificing reliability.
As a side note, the G19 is a great carry gun. I carried one for awhile with zero issues. I want to love Glocks, especially since they are so easy to work on, but I just can't hold on to one to save my life. I would spend another $150 making one what my M&P Pro Series already is.
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Feeding per say, is not a problem (with an unobstructed chamber) with too strong a recoil spring, because you have plenty of forward inertia and momentum.
Glock has already established which serial numbers are affected and will send out a replacement recoil spring to the owners of those guns.
I have a short sleeve button shirt over it for concealment. Carried it that way since 2001 no problems. It it shows if you don't make a deal out of it neither will anyone else. I could care less if it prints. Most people don't pay that much attention to life to notice my pistol or me for that matter.
I have found these shirt to be excellent in warm weather. If you don't mind the shirt tail out Cabana type causal shirt.
No "black ops" type of features such as extraneous pockets, zippers or such.
Looks very much like the Cabana Shirts that I buy from J C Penney's which I also recommend.
http://www.jcpenney.com/st-johns-bay-short-sleeve-crosshatch-woven-shirt/prod.jump?ppId=pp5004410124&searchTerm=st+john%27s+bay+mem%27s+shirts&catId=SearchResults&_dyncharset=UTF-8&colorizedImg=DP0815201417035982M.tif
Glock 19, H&K USPc 40, in a Don Hume 721 is my leather of choice.
http://www.donhume.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=67_366_141&products_id=42&zenid=5icum9e01a31olmsg9o37dp9j3
I have bought the J C Penny shirts as low as $10.00 during sales.
I do not consider either of these, "shoot me first", designs or appearances. I have never been called out while wearing either of these