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• tennmike Senior Member Posts: 25,821 Senior Member

  August 2015 #2

  The Admiral didn't sugar coat that at all. And he was right on each point.

  Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
  
  
  

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• Tugar Senior Member Posts: 1,825 Senior Member

  August 2015 #3

  Sad that the only way to talk to someone people is to bring them to their knees first. Don't like it but it happens. Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan, Korea.
  
  The only reason the North Koreas came to the table at all was Truman's line, "the continuing loss of American lives has now become unacceptable." Fear of the glass filled, self lit, parking lot syndrome. If Obama said that, we'd be retreating.

  Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
  Winston Churchill

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• Fat Billy Senior Member Posts: 1,813 Senior Member

  August 2015 #4

  He explained it pretty well. Politicians should kiss babies and stay out of the way of the military. All the items mentioned were mishandled AFTER approval. Sad,Sad, Sad. :down: Later,

  Fat Billy
  
  Recoil is how you know primer ignition is complete.

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• Big Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,985 Senior Member

  August 2015 #5

  A lot went on back then..............how about The Iran-Contra busines...one would think Ronald would have canned the SecDef on the spot, but who knows all that was going on behind the scenes.
  
  Admiral sure highlights a lot of missed opportunities and seems to be a straight shooter.
  
  https://www.nytimes.com/books/97/06/29/reviews/iran-pardon.html

  It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
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• sgtrock21 Senior Member Posts: 1,570 Senior Member

  August 2015 #6

  Big Chief wrote: »

  A lot went on back then..............how about The Iran-Contra busines...one would think Ronald would have canned the SecDef on the spot, but who knows all that was going on behind the scenes.
  
  Admiral sure highlights a lot of missed opportunities and seems to be a straight shooter.
  
  https://www.nytimes.com/books/97/06/29/reviews/iran-pardon.html
  

  I recall reading that Regan took responsibility for Iran/Contra because he was POTUS and was therefore ultimately responsible. The way it should always be. Can you imagine Hillary doing that?

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• 104RFAST Senior Member Posts: 1,262 Senior Member

  August 2015 #7

  Its clear to me that invisible external forces/influences have been in control of world Governments for my adult lifetime.

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• Jeeper Senior Member Posts: 2,952 Senior Member

  August 2015 #8

  104RFAST wrote: »

  Its clear to me that invisible external forces/influences have been in control of world Governments for my adult lifetime.

  
  Yes indeed!
  
  Luis

  Wielding the Hammer of Thor first requires you to lift and carry the Hammer of Thor. - Bigslug

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• horselips Senior Member Posts: 3,624 Senior Member

  August 2015 #9

  104RFAST wrote: »

  Its clear to me that invisible external forces/influences have been in control of world Governments for my adult lifetime.

  
  Relax. We Freemasons are everywhere, that's true, but we don't control everything. Just the important stuff...

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• gunwalker Member Posts: 470 Member

  August 2015 #10

  I find it interesting that Reagan did not go over his sec of defense and order the raid.

  We do not view the world as it is, but as we perceive it to be.

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• snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,803 Senior Member

  August 2015 #11

  .[QUOTE=sgtrfor Iran/Contra because he was POTUS and was therefore ultimately responsible. The way it should always be. Can you imagine Hillary doing that?[/QUOTE ock21;482681]I recall reading that Regan took responsibility
  
  Obummer is responsible for a whole pile of dung and he won't take responsibility for anything except catching bin Laden. And that wasn't even his operation. That was a Bush admin action. It was begun before Obummer ever got elected, much less inaugurated. That's why Obummer kept Gates on the job. Remember Bush chose Robert Gates to replace Rummy and Gates resigned right after the bin Laded gig. Also, CNN let it slip the day bin Laden was killed that it was a four year old operation. Well Obummer hadn't been in office quite 3 years yet

  Daddy, what's an enabler?
  Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.

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• snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,803 Senior Member

  August 2015 #12

  Also, anything Hillary and Obummer could come up with together would have to be a disaster. It would be so libtard and PC it would never have a chance of getting off the ground.

  Daddy, what's an enabler?
  Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.

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• jaywapti Senior Member Posts: 4,492 Senior Member

  August 2015 #13

  tennmike wrote: »

  The Admiral didn't sugar coat that at all. And he was right on each point.

  
  Kudos to Admiral Lyons for having the balls to speak up, since my first hitch I have maintained that the military should be run by the military, not by politicians.
  
  JAY

  THE DEFINITION OF GUN CONTROL IS HITTING THE TARGET WITH YOUR FIRST SHOT

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• bisley Senior Member Posts: 10,554 Senior Member

  August 2015 #14

  Any realistic person should be able to agree with what he said about Islam and Obama. If it walks like a duck...
  
  Some things really are just as simple as they appear to be - when someone expresses a desire to harm you, you should take them at their word. When they demonstrate it through their actions, over and over again, you deserve what you get, if you haven't already compensated for it with actions of your own.

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