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Obama picks openly gay man to lead army

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  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    Well, so much for "Don't ask- - -Don't tell"! Will there be a "Rainbow Division" now?
    :vomit:
    Jerry
  • GunnerK19GunnerK19 Senior Member Posts: 1,094 Senior Member
    http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10006164

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  • Big Al1Big Al1 Senior Member Posts: 8,332 Senior Member
    He won't be happy until the entire military is burdizzoed!!
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    Well, so much for "Don't ask- - -Don't tell"! Will there be a "Rainbow Division" now?
    :vomit:
    Jerry

    Obummer is out to tear down every institution and tradition we have. He want's to destroy America. That's his goal. If Fanning got the job soley on his merit, then that's all well and good, but I smell a rat here. I think his only reason for choosing the guy is because he is gay instead of his knowing anything about what he's doing.
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  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,761 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    Obummer is out to tear down every institution and tradition we have. He wants to destroy America. That's his goal. If Fanning got the job solely on his merit, then that's all well and good, but I smell a rat here. I think his only reason for choosing the guy is because he is gay instead of his knowing anything about what he's doing.
    :agree::that:

    I don't pretend to know if the man is a good choice or not - I hope he is! But I sure don't like "affirmative action" type PCBS.
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  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    Good info, Gunner! I was aware of the original rainbow division's record- - - -I just had to make a joke about what the meaning might be of a name like that these days. It's pretty disgusting to know the brightest and best of our young people have to serve under the command of people picked for their political purity rather than their leadership abilities. That sounds like the old Soviet Union where there was a "Political Officer" in every military unit.

    I'm beginning to think it's time to "trim the tree"- - - - -take a chainsaw to the dead wood at the top, politically and militarily.
    Jerry
  • Fat BillyFat Billy Senior Member Posts: 1,813 Senior Member
    Another thing to be changed when that butt-head is gone. New president will need a box of new pens so running out of ink will not be a problem. :angry: Later,
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  • TxwheelsTxwheels Member Posts: 151 Member
    Saying the new appointee is 'gay' is saying he's happy. Call it like it is.. He's queer as in not normal!
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  • GunnerK19GunnerK19 Senior Member Posts: 1,094 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    It's pretty disgusting to know the brightest and best of our young people have to serve under the command of people picked for their political purity rather than their leadership abilities

    :that: :agree:

    Although, TBH I wasn't entirely happy about our current SecArmy John McHugh either. He graduated HS in 1966 not long after the US got into Vietnam. But somehow he avoided the draft and went directly to college, graduating from Utica in 1970, and then enrolling in SUNY in 1974.

    Sorry, but I believe that anyone in any a command position over our military should have served at least a minimum enlistment in uniform, so they have some idea what it is they're in charge of.
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  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,881 Senior Member
    Seems to me that the position should have been filled by someone who has had high-ranking, career military experience.
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  • Big Al1Big Al1 Senior Member Posts: 8,332 Senior Member
    Seems to me that the position should have been filled by someone who has had high-ranking, career military experience.

    Ya THINK!! When has this clown filled any position with someone who was qualified??!!
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    GunnerK19 wrote: »
    I believe that anyone in any a command position over our military should have served at least a minimum enlistment in uniform, so they have some idea what it is they're in charge of.

    In my opinion, that requirement should include the Commander-In-Chief!
    Jerry
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    GunnerK19 wrote: »
    :that: :agree:

    Although, TBH I wasn't entirely happy about our current SecArmy John McHugh either. He graduated HS in 1966 not long after the US got into Vietnam. But somehow he avoided the draft and went directly to college, graduating from Utica in 1970, and then enrolling in SUNY in 1974.

    Sorry, but I believe that anyone in any a command position over our military should have served at least a minimum enlistment in uniform, so they have some idea what it is they're in charge of.

    Gunner, that somehow he avoided the draft was because it sounds like he did it lawfully. If you went right into College, made good grades, and didn't do as your's truly and lay out a couple semesters because you loved your work, you were a different classification, damn the name fails me, and you were exempt from the draft until you either graduated or flunked out or got kicked out of college. Lots of guys did that and enlisted or got drafted right after they graduated. Sounds like that's what McHugh did. And he was probably much better prepared to go in later when he did.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    Seems to me that the position should have been filled by someone who has had high-ranking, career military experience.

    ....
    Well hell, that's an easy one to answer. Obummer, who can't read except with his tellaprompter, mistook "Career Experienced" (Get ready for this, Drum Roll please) for "Queer Experience!"

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    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,761 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    In my opinion, that requirement should include the Commander-In-Chief!
    Jerry
    I could get behind this! :agree::that:
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  • tubabucknuttubabucknut Banned Posts: 3,520 Senior Member
    I once asked my father why he strongly discouraged his four sons from joining the Army. I was curious because of the strong military history in the family. My father retired as a Major, was a graduate of West Point, and did a tour in Vietnam. My Grandfather retired as a Col., and served in WWII, and Korea. My Great grandfather retired as a Col., and served in the Philippines, and WWI. His response was he did not want to see his four sons killed because some General was promoted for political reasons. He had seen the shift happening during his time in, and did not fully respect what the Army had become. He turned down his promotion to Col., because he couldn't wait to get out of what it had become. Since that conversation, with my father, I have seen how right he was.

    I have no idea if Fanning is capable or not, but I suspect this is far more for political reasons, than for capability. I really don't care if he is gay, but I suspect the President does. I hope I am wrong.
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 17,769 Senior Member
    GunnerK19 wrote: »
    :that: :agree:

    Sorry, but I believe that anyone in any a command position over our military should have served at least a minimum enlistment in uniform, so they have some idea what it is they're in charge of.

    I concur...and who he or she sleeps with is none of my concern.
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    Jayhawker wrote: »
    I concur...and who he or she sleeps with is none of my concern.

    I agree wholly. What I said above referred to more Obama's reason for promoting him. I suspect, as Tuba so aptly put it that Obummer's decision was more politically motivated than for Fanning's expertise. I have no clue of Fanning's abilities. He may very well be the best man for the job. But Obama is not usually motivated by a person's expertise but rather the direction of his agenda and the political wind.

    I think that's what most everybody here is getting at.

    There is no telling who all is gay in Washington or anywhere. And I don't care, as long as they don't push their life style on me or have an opportunity to push it on my kids or grand kids. I just don't want anybody getting picked for a position just because he's/she's gay or anything. That's just pushing an agenda and that's all Obummer is about.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 25,026 Senior Member
    Snake we were to get draft deferments while in college, I still got a draft notice to report 3 times.

    I was in PLC at Quantico for summer training for the first one and the third time I was already in Vietnam.
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 25,026 Senior Member
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    NN wrote: »
    :popcorn:

    I got the college deferment and went to school for 2 years and never heard from them until I didn't go back to school in the fall of 69. Then I got called up for my physical. What years did you go to College? Maybe that was the difference.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    The "powers that be" keep messing with the military and not enough will volunteer for the all volunteer force. Then they'll have to look at reinstituting the draft. That will go over real well what with the present administration hell bent on putting women in forward combat roles. Women having to sign up for the draft will cause a real firestorm if they are eligible for ground combat positions.

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  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 25,026 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    I got the college deferment and went to school for 2 years and never heard from them until I didn't go back to school in the fall of 69. Then I got called up for my physical. What years did you go to College? Maybe that was the difference.
    Fall 60-Jan 65
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    This administration could screw up a one car parade.

    Why would anyone with a shred of common sense commit to a military lifestyle when the incompetent fools running the show have no credibility, and are serial liars to boot? It's one thing to have the patriotism and willingness to endure the hardships of deployment and risk injury or death in the hellholes of the world when our military people can believe the country and the politicians have their backs. It's quite a different story when the "president" has a member of his security detail holding an umbrella to keep his nappy head from getting wet! Disgusting!
    Jerry
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 11,856 Senior Member
    Wasn't this guy one of the top people in charge of the F-35 project?
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    Why would anyone with a shred of common sense commit to a military lifestyle when the incompetent fools running the show have no credibility, and are serial liars to boot? It's one thing to have the patriotism and willingness to endure the hardships of deployment and risk injury or death in the hellholes of the world when our military people can believe the country and the politicians have their backs. It's quite a different story when the "president" has a member of his security detail holding an umbrella to keep his nappy head from getting wet! Disgusting!
    Jerry

    I didn't reenlist because of the 'social experimenting' in the Navy after Vietnam and end of the draft. Women were recruited in large numbers and filled all the shore billets available. Since the WAVEs didn't have to deploy at sea there was no way for the normal sea/shore duty rotation to occur. If you were male, you'd spend your entire career at sea while the females stayed ashore. And then there was that CRAP having to do with promotion; females got an extra boatload of points just for being female. Took me three whacks at E-4 exam to make it because of that feces. And going from E-4 to E-5 would have taken about 6 years because of all the females being fast tracked on promotion. Screw that! I bugged out when my enlistment, and extension, was over. And I wasn't the only one. Navy lost a lot of seagoing sailors the next few years. Good thing the Navy was downsizing at the time, because we were already running WAY below normal personnel levels aboard ship when I left.
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  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    I seem to remember a guy named Zumwalt who was responsible for a bunch of that crappola. The USAF made us go through a bunch of "sensitivity training" that was a horrendous waste of time. One of the factors that influenced me not to re-up was the fact that most of the oldtimers were drunks, and a huge number of the newbies were dopers. Try getting caught in the middle of a situation like that, when I had to figure out which one of the guys at roll call every shift were drunk, hung over, or stoned, and who I thought I could trust to hit the flight line and work on a bunch of multi-million dollar airplanes with the crew members' lives depending on their work!
    Jerry
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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 17,769 Senior Member

    Well written article and right on point as well....
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    NN wrote: »
    Fall 60-Jan 65

    Yep, you were 7 years ahead of me. That probably had something to do with why I never heard from them until I laid out of college and lost my temporary college deferment.
    But they didn't waste any time when I laid out. As soon as my name didn't show on a college roll, I was dead meat. Bingo, we gotcha!!! Hehehehe!
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
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