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Doe with the .243 Medium & 105gr A-Max.

ZeeZee Senior MemberPosts: 27,559 Senior Member
Rancher friend called this morning and asked me to cull a couple does does this afternoon. Of course, I obliged. Unfortunately, he had some stipulations. Those being that it be head shots only and that it be done............quietly. Well, sometimes........you play by the rules.

Decided to take the .243 "Medium" with me, but needed to zero the gun. It was still sighted in for the 100gr Hornady Interlock my buddy used to kill his doe with last year. This time, I wanted to use the 105gr A-Max. A range trip was needed.

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Here is a video of the recoil using a Surefire Break and the 105gr A-Max.

http://vid26.photobucket.com/albums/c106/lovinmycaitlynn/Hunting/IMG_2926_zpspsb4y16j.mp4

Got her zeroed for 100 yards and coincidentally, both the 87gr V-Max and 105gr A-Max have basically the same zero. The 87gr bullet strikes just .5 MOA higher. I contemplated going with the 87gr V-Max this evening, but opted for the A-Max instead.

Rancher said my best friend could come along and take the second doe, so we loaded up and headed to the ranch about 3:30 this afternoon. visited for a bit with the rancher and then he took us to the spot he wanted us to shoot the does. Once there, my friend and I set up on a little knoll overlooking the edge of a field and the wait began. Which didn't take long. Deer began to come out from everywhere! No wonder he needed some culled!

Waiting for two dry does to show up took some time. As deer came and went, we had shootable does show up as individuals but then leave before a second showed up at the same time. Our goal was to do a "synchronized shot". Meaning, on a count down, we both shoot our deer at the same time. I was HOPING I could get both deer on video!

Eventually, two shootable does occupied the field at the same time and the jockying for both to be clear began. Mine would be fine and his would be obstructed. His would be clear and mine was walking. Finally, the were both clear but, I couldn't get them in the same view of the camera. We were laying prone on the ground about 2 feet apart and I had the camera just to my left and right in front of my left elbow. It was now or never as his was meandering to leave the field. I told him I was "Up"..........he was "Up"......I started the video and he started the count.

"I have control. In 5...4...3..."

DINK!

One "shot" rang out and two deer fell over dead. I love it when that works.

Here is the video of my doe at the shot. She was 122 yards away and I took her below the ear. She just fell over.

http://vid26.photobucket.com/albums/c106/lovinmycaitlynn/Hunting/DSCN3034_zpsatpgu0cd.mp4

It's pretty cool. We both fired, but you only hear what sounds like one shot. That's how it's supposed to work.

Back at the work shop, we butchered the does. Mine on the right and my friends on the left.

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Here is the exit of the 105gr A-Max bullet out of my .243 Winchester.

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My friend shot his doe "broadside" with a 168gr A-max out of a .308 Winchester. The round went in her left eye and out the right eye.

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Not much science to it, but it was fun to get at least one deer on video.
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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  • EliEli Senior Member Posts: 3,074 Senior Member
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    Good shooting and nice coordination.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,559 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Is this a Rorshack (however you spell it) test? If so, I see a butterfly.

    OK, that was funny.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,559 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    Good shooting and nice coordination.

    Thanks.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member Posts: 8,365 Senior Member
    Good hustle. Enjoyed the video.

    Have only had a similar opportunity once and our coordination wasn't good enough...........Ours sounded like 2 separate shots and only one animal fell :bang:

    Might have to practice that at the range over summer.
    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
  • Farm Boy DeuceFarm Boy Deuce Senior Member Posts: 6,083 Senior Member
    That is awesome.

    A buddy and I tried to shoot like that once on chickens. The guns went off at the same time, only problem was that I missed.
    I am afraid we forget sometime that the basic and simple things brings us the most pleasure.
    Dad 5-31-13
  • earlyearly Senior Member Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    Good shooting
    Nice to preserve all the meat
    My thoughts are generally clear. My typing, not so much.
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 8,527 Senior Member
    Great shooting by both of you
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 12,072 Senior Member
    Good job!
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,559 Senior Member
    orchidman wrote: »
    Might have to practice that at the range over summer.

    It takes practice. But, it's something that can be easily done in dry fire without even being at the range.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,559 Senior Member
    That is awesome.

    A buddy and I tried to shoot like that once on chickens. The guns went off at the same time, only problem was that I missed.

    My friend and I do it quite often on pigs at night. This was the first time on deer.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,559 Senior Member
    early wrote: »
    Good shooting
    Nice to preserve all the meat

    Clean up is quite a bit easier as well. No blood in the body cavity.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 12,188 Senior Member
    A deer's head at 122 yards, for some that is not an easy shot.

    Well done on management, synchronized shooting, and stocking the freezer.

    Of course once again, thanks for sharing the experience.
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • Six-GunSix-Gun Senior Member Posts: 8,155 Senior Member
    LOL

    I opened this thread not knowing that my wife was standing behind me...I'll leave it at that.

    Great job and awesome shots!
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 12,072 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    My friend and I do it quite often on pigs at night. This was the first time on deer.

    We have done it on turtle control shoots. Everyone pick a turrtle, one person counts down and BOOM!
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,559 Senior Member
    Diver43 wrote: »
    A deer's head at 122 yards, for some that is not an easy shot.

    Well done on management, synchronized shooting, and stocking the freezer.

    Of course once again, thanks for sharing the experience.

    Thanks. The size of the target isn't bad. The movement of it can prove challenging at times.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,559 Senior Member
    Six-Gun wrote: »
    LOL

    I opened this thread not knowing that my wife was standing behind me...I'll leave it at that.

    Oops!
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,559 Senior Member
    bullsi1911 wrote: »
    We have done it on turtle control shoots. Everyone pick a turrtle, one person counts down and BOOM!


    Target rich environment for sure!
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Six-GunSix-Gun Senior Member Posts: 8,155 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    Oops!

    I'll have you know that, thanks to your post, I've been informally banned from deer hunting :jester:
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,559 Senior Member
    Six-Gun wrote: »
    I'll have you know that, thanks to your post, I've been informally banned from deer hunting :jester:

    Looks like you're a fisherman now.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Six-GunSix-Gun Senior Member Posts: 8,155 Senior Member
    Yep...a castaway, if you will...

    [/rimshot]
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
  • jaywaptijaywapti Senior Member Posts: 5,037 Senior Member
    ZEE, once again, thanks for the video and pics, I'm a little disappointed that you didn't do a "craniotomy" :rotflmao:

    JAY
    THE DEFINITION OF GUN CONTROL IS HITTING THE TARGET WITH YOUR FIRST SHOT
  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior Member Posts: 8,227 Senior Member
    OK. Someone has to say it.

    :yousuck:

    Definitely a target rich environment. Good shootin', Tex.
    Jerry

    Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
  • twatwa Senior Member Posts: 2,245 Senior Member
    That deer never knew what hit her, dead before she hit the ground, that was awesome.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,559 Senior Member
    Thanks, Gents.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior Member Posts: 8,227 Senior Member
    I was wondering how you were able to do a "cull" hunt on a game animal, so I did a little checking. I'm assuming you're doing this in Texas. If not, then never mind.

    I found the following info on the Texas Parks and Wildlife web site (http://tpwd.texas.gov/regulations/outdoor-annual/regs/animals/white-tailed-deer). Is one of these the program that allows landowners to harvest "extra" deer, or allow their agents to do so? Just curious, mostly.

    Also, if it's not too much to ask, I'd really like to know the general area of the state you are in. This looks like the Texas hill country to me, or perhaps a little further south. If you don't wish to divulge that information, I'm cool with that.

    Whatever the case, it must be a terrible burden to have to shoot all those hogs and deer. :roll:

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    Managed Lands Deer (MLD) Permits: Permits issued to landowners with a TPWD-approved Wildlife Management Plan. MLD permits allow hunters, at the discretion of the landowner or agent, to exceed the county bag limit and (in some cases) to hunt during an extended season. All deer taken on a property for which MLD permits have been issued must be tagged with the appropriate type of MLD permit. NOTE: No license log entry or tag from a hunting license is required for deer killed under a MLD permit (see license log requirement above). For more information about Wildlife Management Plans, landowners should call TPWD at (512) 389-4505.

    • LAMPS (Landowner Assisted Management Permit System): LAMPS permits allow antlerless deer to be taken in counties where antlerless harvest is by permit only during the entire season or portion of a season. For more information, landowners should contact TPWD at (409) 489-0823 or visit LAMPS. All antlerless deer taken on a LAMPS property must be tagged with a LAMPS permit. This does not include antlerless deer taken during the Archery Only Season or Muzzleloader Only Season. NOTE: No hunting license log or hunting license tag is required for deer killed under a LAMPS permit.

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    Jerry

    Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,559 Senior Member
    All the ranches that I cull for use MLD Tags. All I have to have is a valid hunting license. The landowner has a set number of tags to use. He takes my information and puts it on the management records as well as the MLD Tag. Issues me the tag with the deer and I'm out of there. Don't have to use any of my hunting license tags.

    Edit: As long as I have a valid hunting license with me, I can put either my hunting license # or DL# in the ledger and on the MLD Tag. Doesn't HAVE to be a hunting lic # on the tag.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,559 Senior Member
    Jerry, your mailbox is full.

    FYI
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior Member Posts: 8,227 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    All the ranches that I cull for use MLD Tags. All I have to have is a valid hunting license. The landowner has a set number of tags to use. He takes my information and puts it on the management records as well as the MLD Tag. Issues me the tag with the deer and I'm out of there. Don't have to use any of my hunting license tags.

    Cool. Are there any restrictions on how the meat can or must be used?
    Jerry

    Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,559 Senior Member
    JerryBobCo wrote: »

    Whatever the case, it must be a terrible burden to have to shoot all those hogs and deer. :roll:

    Somebody's gotta do it. :jester:

    It feeds people. I give away everything that doesn't fit in my freezer. The only thing I don't process may be the rankest of hogs.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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