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Doe with the .243 Medium & 105gr A-Max.
Rancher friend called this morning and asked me to cull a couple does does this afternoon. Of course, I obliged. Unfortunately, he had some stipulations. Those being that it be head shots only and that it be done............quietly. Well, sometimes........you play by the rules.
Decided to take the .243 "Medium" with me, but needed to zero the gun. It was still sighted in for the 100gr Hornady Interlock my buddy used to kill his doe with last year. This time, I wanted to use the 105gr A-Max. A range trip was needed.

Here is a video of the recoil using a Surefire Break and the 105gr A-Max.
http://vid26.photobucket.com/albums/c106/lovinmycaitlynn/Hunting/IMG_2926_zpspsb4y16j.mp4
Got her zeroed for 100 yards and coincidentally, both the 87gr V-Max and 105gr A-Max have basically the same zero. The 87gr bullet strikes just .5 MOA higher. I contemplated going with the 87gr V-Max this evening, but opted for the A-Max instead.
Rancher said my best friend could come along and take the second doe, so we loaded up and headed to the ranch about 3:30 this afternoon. visited for a bit with the rancher and then he took us to the spot he wanted us to shoot the does. Once there, my friend and I set up on a little knoll overlooking the edge of a field and the wait began. Which didn't take long. Deer began to come out from everywhere! No wonder he needed some culled!
Waiting for two dry does to show up took some time. As deer came and went, we had shootable does show up as individuals but then leave before a second showed up at the same time. Our goal was to do a "synchronized shot". Meaning, on a count down, we both shoot our deer at the same time. I was HOPING I could get both deer on video!
Eventually, two shootable does occupied the field at the same time and the jockying for both to be clear began. Mine would be fine and his would be obstructed. His would be clear and mine was walking. Finally, the were both clear but, I couldn't get them in the same view of the camera. We were laying prone on the ground about 2 feet apart and I had the camera just to my left and right in front of my left elbow. It was now or never as his was meandering to leave the field. I told him I was "Up"..........he was "Up"......I started the video and he started the count.
"I have control. In 5...4...3..."
DINK!
One "shot" rang out and two deer fell over dead. I love it when that works.
Here is the video of my doe at the shot. She was 122 yards away and I took her below the ear. She just fell over.
http://vid26.photobucket.com/albums/c106/lovinmycaitlynn/Hunting/DSCN3034_zpsatpgu0cd.mp4
It's pretty cool. We both fired, but you only hear what sounds like one shot. That's how it's supposed to work.
Back at the work shop, we butchered the does. Mine on the right and my friends on the left.

Here is the exit of the 105gr A-Max bullet out of my .243 Winchester.

My friend shot his doe "broadside" with a 168gr A-max out of a .308 Winchester. The round went in her left eye and out the right eye.

Not much science to it, but it was fun to get at least one deer on video.
Decided to take the .243 "Medium" with me, but needed to zero the gun. It was still sighted in for the 100gr Hornady Interlock my buddy used to kill his doe with last year. This time, I wanted to use the 105gr A-Max. A range trip was needed.

Here is a video of the recoil using a Surefire Break and the 105gr A-Max.
http://vid26.photobucket.com/albums/c106/lovinmycaitlynn/Hunting/IMG_2926_zpspsb4y16j.mp4
Got her zeroed for 100 yards and coincidentally, both the 87gr V-Max and 105gr A-Max have basically the same zero. The 87gr bullet strikes just .5 MOA higher. I contemplated going with the 87gr V-Max this evening, but opted for the A-Max instead.
Rancher said my best friend could come along and take the second doe, so we loaded up and headed to the ranch about 3:30 this afternoon. visited for a bit with the rancher and then he took us to the spot he wanted us to shoot the does. Once there, my friend and I set up on a little knoll overlooking the edge of a field and the wait began. Which didn't take long. Deer began to come out from everywhere! No wonder he needed some culled!
Waiting for two dry does to show up took some time. As deer came and went, we had shootable does show up as individuals but then leave before a second showed up at the same time. Our goal was to do a "synchronized shot". Meaning, on a count down, we both shoot our deer at the same time. I was HOPING I could get both deer on video!
Eventually, two shootable does occupied the field at the same time and the jockying for both to be clear began. Mine would be fine and his would be obstructed. His would be clear and mine was walking. Finally, the were both clear but, I couldn't get them in the same view of the camera. We were laying prone on the ground about 2 feet apart and I had the camera just to my left and right in front of my left elbow. It was now or never as his was meandering to leave the field. I told him I was "Up"..........he was "Up"......I started the video and he started the count.
"I have control. In 5...4...3..."
DINK!
One "shot" rang out and two deer fell over dead. I love it when that works.
Here is the video of my doe at the shot. She was 122 yards away and I took her below the ear. She just fell over.
http://vid26.photobucket.com/albums/c106/lovinmycaitlynn/Hunting/DSCN3034_zpsatpgu0cd.mp4
It's pretty cool. We both fired, but you only hear what sounds like one shot. That's how it's supposed to work.
Back at the work shop, we butchered the does. Mine on the right and my friends on the left.

Here is the exit of the 105gr A-Max bullet out of my .243 Winchester.

My friend shot his doe "broadside" with a 168gr A-max out of a .308 Winchester. The round went in her left eye and out the right eye.

Not much science to it, but it was fun to get at least one deer on video.
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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OK, that was funny.
Thanks.
Have only had a similar opportunity once and our coordination wasn't good enough...........Ours sounded like 2 separate shots and only one animal fell :bang:
Might have to practice that at the range over summer.
A buddy and I tried to shoot like that once on chickens. The guns went off at the same time, only problem was that I missed.
Dad 5-31-13
Nice to preserve all the meat
"The Un-Tactical"
-Mikhail Kalashnikov
It takes practice. But, it's something that can be easily done in dry fire without even being at the range.
My friend and I do it quite often on pigs at night. This was the first time on deer.
Clean up is quite a bit easier as well. No blood in the body cavity.
Well done on management, synchronized shooting, and stocking the freezer.
Of course once again, thanks for sharing the experience.
I opened this thread not knowing that my wife was standing behind me...I'll leave it at that.
Great job and awesome shots!
We have done it on turtle control shoots. Everyone pick a turrtle, one person counts down and BOOM!
-Mikhail Kalashnikov
Thanks. The size of the target isn't bad. The movement of it can prove challenging at times.
Oops!
Target rich environment for sure!
I'll have you know that, thanks to your post, I've been informally banned from deer hunting :jester:
Looks like you're a fisherman now.
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JAY
:yousuck:
Definitely a target rich environment. Good shootin', Tex.
Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
I found the following info on the Texas Parks and Wildlife web site (http://tpwd.texas.gov/regulations/outdoor-annual/regs/animals/white-tailed-deer). Is one of these the program that allows landowners to harvest "extra" deer, or allow their agents to do so? Just curious, mostly.
Also, if it's not too much to ask, I'd really like to know the general area of the state you are in. This looks like the Texas hill country to me, or perhaps a little further south. If you don't wish to divulge that information, I'm cool with that.
Whatever the case, it must be a terrible burden to have to shoot all those hogs and deer. :roll:
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Managed Lands Deer (MLD) Permits: Permits issued to landowners with a TPWD-approved Wildlife Management Plan. MLD permits allow hunters, at the discretion of the landowner or agent, to exceed the county bag limit and (in some cases) to hunt during an extended season. All deer taken on a property for which MLD permits have been issued must be tagged with the appropriate type of MLD permit. NOTE: No license log entry or tag from a hunting license is required for deer killed under a MLD permit (see license log requirement above). For more information about Wildlife Management Plans, landowners should call TPWD at (512) 389-4505.
• LAMPS (Landowner Assisted Management Permit System): LAMPS permits allow antlerless deer to be taken in counties where antlerless harvest is by permit only during the entire season or portion of a season. For more information, landowners should contact TPWD at (409) 489-0823 or visit LAMPS. All antlerless deer taken on a LAMPS property must be tagged with a LAMPS permit. This does not include antlerless deer taken during the Archery Only Season or Muzzleloader Only Season. NOTE: No hunting license log or hunting license tag is required for deer killed under a LAMPS permit.
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Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
Edit: As long as I have a valid hunting license with me, I can put either my hunting license # or DL# in the ledger and on the MLD Tag. Doesn't HAVE to be a hunting lic # on the tag.
FYI
Cool. Are there any restrictions on how the meat can or must be used?
Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
Somebody's gotta do it. :jester:
It feeds people. I give away everything that doesn't fit in my freezer. The only thing I don't process may be the rankest of hogs.