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41magnut41magnut Senior MemberPosts: 1,239 Senior Member
Just saw that the Browns benched J. Manziel for off-field antics.
Apparently some youtube videos surfaced. :eek:

Good thing such a item wasn't around during the Bobby Layne, and Don Meridath days.

Please forgive any spelling errors, it's been awhile since I have thought of those two NFL greats

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  • Big Al1Big Al1 Senior Member Posts: 8,325 Senior Member
    Max Magee, Paul Horning, etc.etc. Back then they played for a baloney sandwich and a glass of beer!
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,626 Senior Member
    Big Al1 wrote: »
    Max Magee, Paul Horning, etc.etc. Back then they played for a baloney sandwich and a glass of beer!

    Yep, Magee was still scatilogically visaged when the Pack took the field for S.B. 1 Hornung's and Magee's antics were legendary and ended up getting Hornung suspended from the league.
    "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
    George Carlin
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 22,604 Senior Member
    Never figured Manzell(sp?) would last long in the NFL.

    He seemed to be speeding down the road towards a SPECTACULAR self destruction since his college days. I figure the $$ from an NFL contract has done nothing to slow him down
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,746 Senior Member
    Its a slippery slope as the saying goes...
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,813 Senior Member
    Here, locally, his family name has been associated with shady business deals and the kids getting away with bad behavior, for decades. Johnny Football grew up in another town, but most of the preceding generation in his family had reputations for getting away with much more than they were ever successfully prosecuted for.
  • NCFUBARNCFUBAR Senior Member Posts: 4,324 Senior Member
    Don't like him and he is more of a brat to me but the NFL and its teams (like other sports and such) are getting to PC. Remember goofy John Riggins telling Sandra OConnor to loosen up when he had way to much? There are plenty of other stories from Joe Namath and the stewardess to pot parties in the 70s and 80s in many training camps. Johnny Football is a real tool but the Austin thing is nothing new it is just a different time and his personality and reputation make it where he needs to keep his head down which he just can't do. Maybe if he on field play was half what his ego believed he have a little slack but if I were coach or owner I'd be looking to deal him somehow to get out from under his salary and open up for a QB who would think about the team's well being on a bye week.
    “The further a society drifts from truth ... the more it will hate those who speak it."
    - George Orwell
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 11,778 Senior Member
    bisley wrote: »
    Here, locally, his family name has been associated with shady business deals and the kids getting away with bad behavior, for decades. Johnny Football grew up in another town, but most of the preceding generation in his family had reputations for getting away with much more than they were ever successfully prosecuted for.

    Yeah, his parents moved to my hometown for for his senior year in highschool, so he would be a great player on a smaller team- giving him a better chance to stand out and get picked up by one of the big football factory collegees. It worked.

    Don't get me wrong. He was a great player. but his parents copywrited the term "Johnny Football" before he was picked up by A&M. That way if A&M ever tried to use that phrase on a t-shirt, etc... they would have to pay his family for it. This was a plan the family had worked for a LONG time.

    Hate to see him flame out in the pros- it would be awesome to get a good hometown hero out there. But it looks like he is going down the road of Vince Young.
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  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,813 Senior Member
    His grandfather (or great- grandfather) went into a partnership with Jack Dempsey, back in the early '50's to build a sports arena here. It was condemned for faulty engineering, before it could ever even open, and sat unused until the '70's, when somebody beefed it up and started using it for a concert hall/community center type business. There was always a NYC connection that always encouraged rumors of Mafia connections, which they never discouraged.
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    Overpaid, underworked steroid abusers- - - - -is there something new to see here?
    :uhm:
    Jerry
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,626 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    Overpaid, underworked steroid abusers- - - - -is there something new to see here?
    :uhm:
    Jerry


    For the most part, no. 'Johnny Football' has had issues for some time now...this is just SSDD. It is a shame to see fellas that have the world by it's collective backside throwing away opportunities like this, though. It isn't unique to sports, though. Plenty of other folks doing the same stuff. When they do it, it just doesn't make the headlines.
    "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
    George Carlin
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    coolgunguy wrote: »
    Yep, Magee was still scatilogically visaged when the Pack took the field for S.B. 1 Hornung's and Magee's antics were legendary and ended up getting Hornung suspended from the league.

    Max McGee was from White Oak Texas, right down the road from my town of birth, Atlanta, TX. My uncle, my dad's younger brother played high school football against him. But yeah, Hornung and Max may have been slight problem children, to say the least. Throw in Layne, and Snake Stabler into the mix, but they were nothing like the drug heads of today. Back then when they played for a glass of beer and a baloney sandwich the coach had some stroke over them because they weren't held in as high esteem and spoiled or paid a king's ransom like todays Premadonnas and when somebody broke the rules they stood out like a sore thumb in those days. Hell today probably 50% of em are screwups off the field. Hell the Owners and coaches probably have cricks in their necks from trying to turn their heads away so they don't see all their shenanigans. But I tell you this, come game day Hornung and Magee, and Snake, Layne, and Meredith all put out and did what they had to to win and earn that baloney sandwich and beer. Even with their off the field antics, I loved those guys and they were still great role models.
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    coolgunguy wrote: »
    For the most part, no. 'Johnny Football' has had issues for some time now...this is just SSDD. It is a shame to see fellas that have the world by it's collective backside throwing away opportunities like this, though. It isn't unique to sports, though. Plenty of other folks doing the same stuff. When they do it, it just doesn't make the headlines.

    One thing about Johnny Football, he was so young when he made the big time He just didn't have enough life experience to know how to handle himself. He had talent out the Gazoo. It's like a 12 year old kid driving a full house Corvette. He don't know how to deal with all that Horsepower.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    bullsi1911 wrote: »
    Yeah, his parents moved to my hometown for for his senior year in highschool, so he would be a great player on a smaller team- giving him a better chance to stand out and get picked up by one of the big football factory collegees. It worked.

    Don't get me wrong. He was a great player. but his parents copywrited the term "Johnny Football" before he was picked up by A&M. That way if A&M ever tried to use that phrase on a t-shirt, etc... they would have to pay his family for it. This was a plan the family had worked for a LONG time.

    Hate to see him flame out in the pros- it would be awesome to get a good hometown hero out there. But it looks like he is going down the road of Vince Young.

    Yeah but for different reasons. Vince's big problem is that he couldn't accept the fact that he just wasn't a pro quarterback. He had bookoo talent and could have done a hundred other things and been a great pro too, but when they tried to tell him they wanted to move him to a different position, he said, I'm a quarterback! He could have been one hell of a running back or even a tight end. He was big enough to be a lineman. He was talented enough to play almost any position. He was maybe one of the greatest college players ever. He put Texas back on the map. But he just wasn't a pro quarterback. But I don't think he was ever an arrogant problem child like Manziel.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior Member Posts: 8,227 Senior Member
    I wouldn't be shocked if the Cowboys end up making some sort of deal to get him. It's no secret that Jerry Jones wanted to draft him, but it just wasn't the right thing for Dallas at the time. Now, it's apparent that the 'boys need a better backup than they currently have, and equally apparent that Tony Romo doesn't have a lot of years left to play. Also, as evidenced by the acquisition of Greg Hardy, Randy Gregory and Lael Collins, they're not afraid of acquiring "damaged goods" and trying to turn them around.

    If Dallas can get Manziel for the right price, don't be surprised if you see him wearing a star on his helmet. With a couple of years grooming behind a veteran, all-star QB and a good program to keep him in line, maybe he can turn his life around and become a real NFL caliber quarterback.

    One last thing. The Browns have a lousy track record of developing QB talent. Look at how many high draft picks they've blown on highly rated college quarter backs. Unless I'm mistaken, Bernie Kozar was the last decent QB they've had. Something's amiss in the Cleveland when it comes to developing quarterbacks.
    Jerry

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  • KSU FirefighterKSU Firefighter Senior Member Posts: 3,249 Senior Member
    Anyone surprised by johnny football screwing the pooch wasn't paying attention to him in college.
    The fire service needs a "culture of extinguishment not safety" Ray McCormack FDNY
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