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Report: Another gun stolen from federal official tied to San Francisco-area murder

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  • bowserbbowserb Member Posts: 277 Member
    Either federal agents are a lot less responsible than armed citizens, or Obama is running a mini-Fast and Furious, just to get more guns into the hands of criminals. I'll be these government employees would be more careful if they were given only fixed allowance and had to buy their firearms. Our whole federal government needs to be flushed and restarted. Maybe Carly is right about zero-based budgeting. No more of every agency's starting place being last years expenditures. Every one has to justify not being shut down every year. Start with Homeland Security--the biggest pile of pure overhead ever conceived by government.
    "We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history." - Ayn Rand
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    bowserb wrote: »
    Start with Homeland Security--the biggest pile of stinking manure ever conceived by government.

    FIFY!

    Jerry
  • JeeperJeeper Senior Member Posts: 2,954 Senior Member
    AMEN! Ron Paul was one of the first I ever heard discussing zero based budgeting. What a GREAT idea.

    Luis
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  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 10,915 Senior Member
    Each agency has to submit and justify their budget two years in advance and plan for six years.
    While zero based budget seems like a simple idea it would take only days to become a nightmare. Taking away the thought process that if you dont spend it this year you will lose it next year mentality would help more. If course holding those spending our money accountable would go further, and I dont mean the person buying office supplies.
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • bowserbbowserb Member Posts: 277 Member
    The thing that is a problem is that there is an underlying assumption that because an agency exists, it should continue to exist. We only add offices and never take them away. I brought up Homeland Security, because I don't think it ever had a real function in the first place. The notion of cooperation among agencies was Bush's justification for it, but then he started adding things to it. Now, it has 240,000 employees, an annual budget of $55 BILLION, and it is another political prize to be handed out to some dufus lacky like Jeh Johnson, a moron who doesn't even know what a gyrocopter is. All Bush needed to do was to gather the heads of the FBI, NSA, CIA and other secret agencies together and say, "You SOB's have 30 days to get a system of coordination and cooperation, or I'll replace every one of you and take away your lavish pensions by executive order!" Instead we have a new cabinet level position and 240,000 employees.

    If we get another Democrat president, we'll get 20 million more el voteros on welfare, and that will tip the vote forever--or at least until the bankruptcy and revolution...which if history is an indicator, will be followed by a dictatorship like every single democracy of the past. We need a small government, pro-Americans president who will say to an agency head, "NO, a two year budget and six year plan is not enough. Prove that we need HALF your budget and functions, or you're out of business the first of the year."

    Look at my signature line. Ayn Rand was right...fifty years ago!
    "We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history." - Ayn Rand
  • shootbrownelkshootbrownelk Senior Member Posts: 2,035 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    FIFY!

    Jerry

    I think that Homeland security was a Bush/Cheney collaboration. And indeed, a stinking, expensive pile-O-manure.
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