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OK this must be awarded the STUPID idea of the century award.

DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior MemberPosts: 9,496 Senior Member
Who comes up with stupid ideas like
this ?


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link to story

http://therighttobear.com/whats-a-palm-pistol-and-why-is-it-being-marketed-to-seniors/


"In a recent column we wrote about a new breed of first time gun owner, seniors who have never before owned a firearm.

People, especially senrios are beginning to understand something about guns and gun crime. There is really only way to guarantee your safety and that’s by procuring your very own firearm.

This is exactly why a gun company has released a brand new weapon, aimed just at seniors.

"Check it out.

Guns.com recently ran an article about a compact, hand-held pistol geared for seniors, the disabled and women called the Palm Pistol. Manufactured by Constitution Arms and conceived by the company’s president, Matt Carmel, the pistol aims at leveling the playing field for those unable to manipulate traditional handguns.

I was recently invited to meet with Carmel out on the range to a first look at his Palm Pistol.

It’s called a palm pistol, it barely looks like a gun, and it can help people fight off intruders with the press of a button."
"There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996

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  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    "Pushing my skepticism aside, I stepped up to the range table to get a better look. The first thing Carmel did was put the pistol in my hand to introduce me to weapons’ surprisingly intuitive ergonomics. The round shape, which I was first leery of at first as I would imagine most shooters would be, fits nicely in one hand. Additionally, Carmel has paired that with two sizes of backstraps, large and small, so shooters can ensure a decent fit. Overall, the pistol measures in at just 5.2 inches with a 2.5 inch barrel.

    I found the weapon to be weighted well, especially given that this is intended for seniors and the disabled. It’s not too heavy but it also doesn’t feel like a toy. Protruding outside the oval is a metal barrel with a standard 5/8 muzzle thread and thread protector. Nestled underneath the barrel is a picatinny rail which currently accepts TruGlo Micro Tac and LaserLyte Centermass lasers. "
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    It is a single shot firearm and loading and unloading seems and sounds extremely complicated to ME !
    Talking about adding lasers? a piccatiny rail on a single shot gadget pistol ? SERIOUSLY ????
    How does a senior or disabled person with weak fingers and poor coordination even manipulate a gadget gun like that ?
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    "The Palm Pistol is pricey, $1350 is the going rate, but it does fill a void the rest of the industry has ignored. Until other manufacturers step up to the plate and offer a disability friendly firearm, the Palm Pistol is better than packing nothing at all."

    I wish Sam W were here to comment on this !

    This is stupid on so many levels !
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,667 Senior Member
    Its an old idea, I've seen it before "somewhere"...
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 16,928 Senior Member
    zorba wrote: »
    Its an old idea, I've seen it before "somewhere"...

    Yep...1882...and it was a multi-shot firearm...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protector_Palm_Pistol
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    So, a single shot .38 special with a picatinny rail, a threaded barrel, a thread protector, mount a laser to it, get a loud-en-ner adapter to make it really BOOM !

    So don't that push the price up to $ 2,000 +++ $ ?

    Just the right price for Senior Citizens that have never owned a gun ? and now need to master a complicated overly expensive gun ?
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member Posts: 8,111 Senior Member
    I guess it would make 'face palming' a thing of the past................
    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • TxwheelsTxwheels Member Posts: 151 Member
    One word; ridiculous!
    If I don't answer the phone, I'm probably in the Senate taking a POTUS and wiping my Congress
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 11,155 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Never met a senior who could not operate a S&W Model 36 just fine.

    And it goes BANG more than once.
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 24,715 Senior Member
    zorba wrote: »
    Its an old idea, I've seen it before "somewhere"...
    :that:
    Shut up-----KAREN; OK Cynthia
  • NCFUBARNCFUBAR Senior Member Posts: 4,324 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Never met a senior who could not operate a S&W Model 36 just fine.

    Yep, some have said creating a likely solution where there is no real problem for other types of new ideas. To me this to me is creating a likely problem where there is no real problem.
    “The further a society drifts from truth ... the more it will hate those who speak it."
    - George Orwell
  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Never met a senior who could not operate a S&W Model 36 just fine.

    I obtained and gifted my uncle Antonio a vintage S&W top break revolver in .38 S&W for personal defense, and he loved how easy he could manage it.

    Somehow I believe if somone has so much trouble with a revolver of some sort, this squeeze toy is NOT going to make things any easier, add to the mix an elderly person that has NEVER had a firearm, make it complicated to use, one shot, very very expensive !

    THE NEW GUN CONTROL PLAN !!!!

    The Obama gun ?? costs lots of $$$$$$ and does not work !!!!!
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • earlyearly Senior Member Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    I think a SMG would be the perfect firearm for seniors.
    My thoughts are generally clear. My typing, not so much.
  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    Yeah, ifn a LEGAL SMG Did not cost thirty thousand dollars.

    That vintage S&W was not cheap either !
    Was still well under $ 500 and well worth it...

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    it looked somewhat like this one, with black plastic grips, S&W medalion.
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    I believe one of those .32 palm pistols was used to assassainate a president, wasn't it?

    A Ruger single action revolver would make an ideal self defense arm for a senior with compromised hand strength. Even a striker-fired pistol might require more grip strength than some old folks can manage, but virtually anyone can thumb back the hammer of a Blackhawk. .38 special in a .357 is still a pretty potent self defense option, or at least it beats begging for mercy!
    Jerry
  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    Yes !
    And a Ruger is a great value !
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • TugarTugar Senior Member Posts: 2,222 Senior Member
    DoctorWho wrote: »
    Until other manufacturers step up to the plate and offer a disability friendly firearm"

    It's called a revolver.
    Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
    Winston Churchill
  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    You do know I was quoting the gun maker, right ?
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • BufordBuford Senior Member Posts: 6,713 Senior Member
    A lot of stupid ideas out there some catch on others don't. The S&W .500 is still holding on.
    Just look at the flowers Lizzie, just look at the flowers.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,018 Senior Member
    [h=2]OK this must be awarded the STUPID idea of the century award.[/h]
    Oh......I don't know. It has some pretty stiff competition.

    http://www.taurususa.com/gun-selector-results.cfm?series=41

    http://www.taurususa.com/gun-selector-results.cfm?series=CRV&toggle=tp
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,262 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Never met a senior who could not operate a S&W Model 36 just fine.

    I've met plenty of 'em. Age and arthritis, sometimes coupled with not having ever had much strength even when young and healthy work against a lot of people. Toward the end of her years, my grandmother ended up with a Ruger MKI as her house gun because she couldn't run her old top-break .38S&W anymore. She could grab the "ears" of the bolt and retract it. I doubt she could have cycled much else.

    For such issues of feebleness, a DA trigger or thumbing back a hammer is extremely difficult on a good day, and pretty much impossible under stress. Working a slide for a lot of these folks is a challenge as well. Being able to put enough resistance behind an automatic to allow it to run without short-stroking is yet another potential pitfall.

    The thing that people like this need most is OPTIONS that help them find the best way to deal with their issues. No, a single shot palm pistol is not an ideal substitute for the 1911 that you can't physically run, but it is still way better than trying to jam your thumbs (your weak, brittle, palsied thumbs) into the eye sockets of someone more than double your weight and less than half your years.

    If nothing else, such a tool lets the infirm transform from a tasty and helpless sardine into something more like a pointy, poisonous puffer fish - the shark may kill or seriously mess you up when he tries to eat you, but may get killed or seriously messed up in return.
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • waipapa13waipapa13 Senior Member Posts: 838 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Never met a senior who could not operate a S&W Model 36 just fine.

    I thought along the same lines,
    but it is shocking how weak some people are, now, especially in women, measureable physical strength has dropped massively from the middle of the last century partly as a result of more sedentary jobs and improvements in home appliances,
    next time you are in the office or around a woman under the age of 30 in a non manual job, get her to pull the main blade open on something like a Case large Stockman, my edc knife, and a standard slip joint folder, between long fingernails and poor hand strength I would say a good amount of them would be unable to open it, which to me is shocking, give that level of strength fifty years and you have the inability to pull a DA trigger or potentially thumb back a hammer.
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