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bisley
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Trump refuses last debate before Iowa vote

Trump demanded that Fox News remove Megan Kelly from the moderator list. They refused, so he won't participate.
Everyone is spinning this differently. What's yours?
Everyone is spinning this differently. What's yours?
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That would be the Town Hall format. Most of the candidates are doing that, voluntarily.
Eight debates, and the broadcasters are making a killing. It would be a significant gesture if they donated their proceeds.
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Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.... now who's bringing the hot wings? :jester:
OR, Cruz does a lot better in debates than he is by his internal data and he is close enough that he needs to be in the spotlight yet not get his butt kicked again.
So either way, the great compromiser (when he gets his way) cant handle the pressure of a debate where people don't fawn over him.
How else are citizens going to choose between a dozen pretty good candidates? Without debates and news people asking questions, it's all about who has enough money to more effectively mis-characterize their opponents with TV ads. Would you prefer the Democrat Party system, where everyone marches in lockstep according to the party line, and the dog and pony shows that pass for their debates are held when they are least likely to be watched?
Bingo
-Mikhail Kalashnikov
Jack Webb and I are spin free.
Every other Republican candidate accepts the challenges of modern political campaigns, and faces them head-on. Even Chris Christie, with all of his liberal policies to defend against, has the balls to duke it out in front of a national audience. Trump has gotten away with blustering through every potentially embarrassing question, so far, but has now backed down for the first time. He claims that he is so popular that he could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot at someone, and he wouldn't lose a single point in the polls. So, I guess he believes he can coast through Iowa and New Hampshire.
The point of the process is to see how the candidates address the uncomfortable questions. This guy is refusing to take the uncomfortable questions from a very popular news anchor from a Republican-leaning network. Perhaps his crew can't figure out how to spin not being able to charm or impress a smart & attractive woman in public? If he can't play with the big GIRLS from his own side, how's he going to do with the big BOYS from the other?
My impression has always been that Trump - as a politician - is at least 95% hat and and at max 5% cowboy. That isn't changing with this thread.
Honestly, the guy reminds me a lot of Obama - a massive, substance-lacking dose of what people want to hear. Isn't this toupee AWESOME?:roll:
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
While I'm no Trump fan I have to disagree. Trump could care less about Megan Kelly. She's like any other news anchor; she simply reads pre-scripted nonsense from a teleprompter that's designed to divide and fracture. Sad thing is----its working as intended.
Nailed it.
He SHOULD treat her like any other news anchor, but she stood up to him and called him out and he couldnt hang. Now he acts like a 13 year old drama queen.
As to Kelly, her JOB is to see if those she interviews are what they say they are. I, for one like to see what happens when they get put under pressure in uncomfortable situations. Looks like Donny runs.
If he cant handle a pundit, what does he do as Pres. when the dictator of lower Bumfikia tells him to pee up a rope? Leave? Cry? Go on TV and tell everyone that it is unfair? Call him names?
Sorry you are mistaken. Her job was to be a moderator, not take either side. Her job was to ask questions and wait for an answer and keep the answers on subject and keep track of allotted time.
She can take either side she desires and put people to their word outside of the debate forum.
Yes, yes, and yes. I had no problem with Megan Kelly's questions, shows you how Trump is going to act as President when someone questions his policies and thought process. Don't have a good answer, attack the messenger.
Jerry
Exactly; guy is a media character.
As we say down here, "I have no candle in this burial" but I think he was an idiot for not going. Only thing you do by refusing a fight, no matter how bad you can end up, is giving your enemies even more ammo against you.
This is how I see it. If he was president and Pelosi, or Boxer, or that nut job woman from south Florida called him out on something, is he gonna storm out of the room? Then go on TV and call them names?
Megan Kelly used Trumps own words to formulate the question she asked, whether anyone likes it or not - no different from a thousand other questions that moderators have asked politicians. Politicians, with all their many flaws, accept this and weigh it before putting themselves in the public eye. Mostly, they use bait and switch tactics to brazen their way through, and mostly they get away with it. Trump has backed down, in a very public way, rather than take a chance on getting beat up. He knows he can't debate with Ted Cruz, on a level playing field, where sound bite responses are not the rule. Megan Kelly is just a diversion that he thinks he can sell to his supporters.
Unfriend him on face book...:tooth:
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
He handled it poorly and then went on and on about it via Twitter and everywhere else. Now he is refusing to participate in the debate because of her? It sounds like he has some pretty thin skin to me. Maybe it should be a wake up call to him-- not every woman is going to kiss his ass because he is rich. They certainly don't do it because of his charm and good looks.
Finding out what he will do when the Dems question his slandering of females is a honest question. If you dont think MSNBC will put Trump of 24 hour playback if he wins, and not just his speech from this week, then I guess it isnt a worthwhile question.
Fair enough and legitimate. My only argument is that each person on the stage should receive the same question and be given a certain amount of time to respond, if they go off subject matter the moderator steers them back on course or cuts them off when time runs out. A moderator should not pick and choose which question each person is asked, that turns a debate into pointing fingers and making accusations. She needed to ask each person their opinion or stance on an issue. On her own show she can point fingers and ask for explanations all she wants and everyone is fair game.
Just my way of thinking about it, this is America and we can have different opinions :beer:
I don't think so Fishead, I think he has the balls to stand up to any of them. But what I think bugs him is that even having an almost inexhaustible supply of money and owning his own empire, he has no real power over her (Megan) or any of his opponents. He likes to be boss and when he's not he goes Bozo.
That woman can have power over me any day! she's SMART, BEAUTIFUL, and Reasonably CONSERVATIVE!!! What's not to love? I'll be her slave!
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Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.