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  • twatwa Senior Member Posts: 2,238 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    I like those old Smiths and they are acquiring somewhat of a cult following!

    Yep, I have a few of those old Smith Autos stashed away. They are built like tanks!!
  • twatwa Senior Member Posts: 2,238 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    But they have a dumbass backwards safety. Browning got it right in 1911. Thumb down to fire.

    When you have shot them enough, it is second nature....I don't even think about it. I have a 5906 stainless "truck gun" that I take in and out quite often, I trust my life with it, it is that reliable with everything I have ever put through it, and I have had it for a very long time.
  • twatwa Senior Member Posts: 2,238 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Why would you ever worry about the safety on a DA pistol?

    I don't worry about it, I was raised with a safety and have always used one....the process of bringing the gun up or out and the automation of taking the safety off, it is second nature for me.
  • twatwa Senior Member Posts: 2,238 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    A second nature or not, slide mounted safety's in general, from any maker, are a stupid idea. Especially the "up" to fire ones. Which I believe most are.

    Meh, doesn't bother me at all.
  • earlyearly Senior Member Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    JeffnBama wrote: »
    My first 9MM is a $ 400 30 year old S&W Model 469

    Didn't know was that old till looked it up, first thing found was recall. Serial# wasn't on the list and safety works properly. Gun is great shape with original box, Manual and extra mag.

    No experience here, but I've read the old Smith auto loaders are one of the best used gun deals out there. 30 years is nothing in on a well made firearm.
    My thoughts are generally clear. My typing, not so much.
  • GunnerJackyGunnerJacky New Member Posts: 19 New Member
    My first 9mm was Heckler & Koch VP9. It weighed 25.6 oz. It has a great trigger. It is a good shooter and feeds everything. I miss it.
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  • JeffnBamaJeffnBama Member Posts: 204 Member
    Pistol operated smooth and felt great in hand, Range Master liked it. First three hits center left are his rest are mine, 25yrd at least I hit the target LOL Hit another used small target with a decent group
  • JeffnBamaJeffnBama Member Posts: 204 Member
    Watched a couple of instructional videos on 469, cleaned and reassembled this afternoon and it still works! :applause:
  • VarmintmistVarmintmist Senior Member Posts: 7,398 Senior Member
    Here is a correction target that might help.

    bullseyeshootinghelp_zpsvbn8t00a.jpg

    Seriously though. It isnt different than shooting a rifle or anything else. Sight alignment, breath control, trigger control, grip and stance. Start slow. You proved it works, now go one round at a time focusing on all of the parts and making the sights stay on target AFTER the trigger breaks.
    It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,667 Senior Member
    JeffnBama wrote: »
    ...cleaned and reassembled this afternoon and it still works!
    That's 3/4ers of it!
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • earlyearly Senior Member Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    JeffnBama wrote: »
    Watched a couple of instructional videos on 469, cleaned and reassembled this afternoon and it still works! :applause:

    Gun solvent, oil, Hoppes#9 etc.. Air freshener of happiness :tooth:
    My thoughts are generally clear. My typing, not so much.
  • JeffnBamaJeffnBama Member Posts: 204 Member
    Here is a correction target that might help.

    bullseyeshootinghelp_zpsvbn8t00a.jpg

    Seriously though. It isnt different than shooting a rifle or anything else. Sight alignment, breath control, trigger control, grip and stance. Start slow. You proved it works, now go one round at a time focusing on all of the parts and making the sights stay on target AFTER the trigger breaks.
    New glasses so I can see the sights will help alot
  • BAMAAKBAMAAK Senior Member Posts: 4,484 Senior Member
    Nice looking gun and looks like it shoots well. Congrats. You get a carry permit yet? If not, don't get the 5 yr picture one, they charge you $10.00 a year for the picture even though it's only one picture. You can get the 5 yr paper one for $50.00 or 5 yr picture one for $100.00.
    "He only earns his freedom and his life Who takes them every day by storm."

    -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German writer and politician
  • JeffnBamaJeffnBama Member Posts: 204 Member
    BAMAAK wrote: »
    Nice looking gun and looks like it shoots well. Congrats. You get a carry permit yet? If not, don't get the 5 yr picture one, they charge you $10.00 a year for the picture even though it's only one picture. You can get the 5 yr paper one for $50.00 or 5 yr picture one for $100.00.
    Went to Sharon Johnson yesterday and it shoots great , will take it easy as I read parts and grips is hard to find. Now I'm hooked on older Models and may go back and check on the two 5906 models. Waiting for permit I applied for Jan12th, still want a new compact and have Snub for CC. Non will be any good till get eye exam and new glasses
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,798 Senior Member
    That is a great 'platform' for learning to shoot a pistol. I've shot a couple of the old S&W semi-autos, and they are very forgiving, due to their weight, I reckon. Outstanding for HD or vehicle carry, but kinda bulky/heavy for all day long concealed carry.
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 10,921 Senior Member
    JeffnBama wrote: »
    Pistol operated smooth and felt great in hand, Range Master liked it. First three hits center left are his rest are mine, 25yrd at least I hit the target LOL Hit another used small target with a decent group

    Great find, congrats!

    25 yards? Bring your target in to 7 yards and send it out a little at a time
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  • JeffnBamaJeffnBama Member Posts: 204 Member
    I thought he said first line was 25. I was a little nervous and concentrating being safe plus had ear plugs and big gun being fired at the time. 25ft maybe please excuse my stupid
  • TugarTugar Senior Member Posts: 2,222 Senior Member
    That's gonna earn you your first "you suck". The older S&W 9mm autos are on my grail list. Nice find indeed.
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  • JeffnBamaJeffnBama Member Posts: 204 Member
    Tugar wrote: »
    That's gonna earn you your first "you suck". The older S&W 9mm autos are on my grail list. Nice find indeed.
    Guess I double suck now
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,667 Senior Member
    JeffnBama wrote: »
    Guess I double suck now
    Like a Hoover raping a Dyson! :roll2:
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 11,742 Senior Member
    JeffnBama wrote: »
    My first 9MM is a $ 400 30 year old S&W Model 469

    Didn't know was that old till looked it up, first thing found was recall. Serial# wasn't on the list and safety works properly. Gun is great shape with original box, Manual and extra mag.

    I had one of those 469s. When they came out, one of the selling points was you could completely cover it with your hand, a concealment thing. It was reliable but cobby.
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
  • JeffnBamaJeffnBama Member Posts: 204 Member
    Snub was such a Pig to get clean it was getting late so just wiped pistol down and finished it today. Opened it up and green flakes were all over the guide assembly , culprit is the Green Guide spring. Went over it lightly with Scotch pad and blasted it with cleaner . Found a video on cleaning Magazines , good thing I did mine were a mess . Blasted out crud and brass particles and scrubbed all the parts ,applied very thin oil and wiped dry. Also while apart did a touch up with Perma Blue , whew I'm tired!
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,495 Senior Member
    You don't want to oil the interior of a magazine or its springs. That can attract more dust and dirt and cause things to bind up. Just clean it well and regularly.
    Overkill is underrated.
  • JeffnBamaJeffnBama Member Posts: 204 Member
    You don't want to oil the interior of a magazine or its springs. That can attract more dust and dirt and cause things to bind up. Just clean it well and regularly.
    I just put a little dot of oil on a patch and wiped all dry , they were in bad shape
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,394 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    A second nature or not, slide mounted safety's in general, from any maker, are a stupid idea. Especially the "up" to fire ones. Which I believe most are.

    When you get to thinking everything is stupid that isn't your idea, might be time to recalculate. My 469 is very easy to take off safety. You just thumb it up. The only thing dumb about this 469 is the dumb Mag Release safety, which I think makes it more dangerous if anything.

    All this is usually a moot point to me anyway, I don't use the safety while carrying. I keep it on an empty chamber with a full magazine. If I need it, I simply rack the slide and shoot. And when carrying in this mode I make sure the safety is in the off positon. Because if I have to rack it back, if it's on safe, the hammer falls down to a half cock position and then I'm back into double action trigger pull.

    If someone has the drop on me, I'm probably screwed anyhow so might as well keep it concealed so not to attract attention until I get a chance to pull it and rack the slide. Of course, if I'm going into a situation where I think I may need to use it, I'll probably rack one in. But then I'll simply put it on safe which lowers the hammer. The safety isn't that hard to operate. Then I'll take the safety back off. I do practice shooting double action with it and I am minute of burglar with it. But it still sucks in double action mode.
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  • JeffnBamaJeffnBama Member Posts: 204 Member

    Bought a set of grips off E Bay $30 , don't know if cheap aftermarket or factory blemished. Went over with fine wet o dry and look a little better, may go over with Dupli Color spray paint.
  • JeffnBamaJeffnBama Member Posts: 204 Member
    Decided cheap shiny grips would look funny on a old gun. Went over easy with 1000 grit and wiped dry with gun oil. Now can save the originals , maybe find a real good pair sometime
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,667 Senior Member
    JeffnBama wrote: »
    Now can save the originals...
    That's what I've done on a couple of my old guns - put modern grips on and saved the sometimes fragile originals.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • JeffnBamaJeffnBama Member Posts: 204 Member
    Nicely done!!
    Thanks!
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