Just bought Sig 250 22 second thoughts before firing. Half of the components is plastic!
The technological progression seems to have gone something like this:
1. Build the product to last.
2. Build the product to outlast the original purchaser.
3. Build the product to outlast the current budget cycle.
4. Build the product to outlast the warranty. Which determines which? Let your own cynicism decide.
There's a reason I like pre-WWII-era stuff, or stuff made by pre-WWII-era people.
Go order a cake at the Publix bakery and they give you a plastic knife, actually works good :tooth: :roll2:
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Still amazes me this is a real Firearm, I went straight to the Range after buying and used it for NRA class.
There was globs of white grease inside and Magazines were sticking, cleaned everything and all slides well.
Plastic is the new normal.
1) lighter
2) cheaper to make
3) never rusts
4) can be formed into virtually any shape.
For better or worse Glock changed the world.
Indeed; for my daughters, plastic guns and maybe a lot of other traditionally metal-made mass-produced products will be the rule. Probably us playing with plastic toys (Gun replicas or such among them) that hardly lasted in the hands of a young boy and his rough handling has a lot to do with our (justified) mistrust of this material, no matter how much it has specialized and developed in the last 40 years.
Nice pistol; ammo used? ran correctly with other brands/types? This is usually a common issue with many .22 pistols, and as long as I recall, Sig Mosquitos that were imported here had a lot of ammo/reliability issues to the point of many being sold after a while by their unsatisfied owners.
Indeed; for my daughters, plastic guns and maybe a lot of other traditionally metal-made mass-produced products will be the rule. Probably us playing with plastic toys (Gun replicas or such among them) that hardly lasted in the hands of a young boy and his rough handling has a lot to do with our (justified) mistrust of this material, no matter how much it has specialized and developed in the last 40 years.
Nice pistol; ammo used? ran correctly with other brands/types? This is usually a common issue with many .22 pistols, and as long as I recall, Sig Mosquitos that were imported here had a lot of ammo/reliability issues to the point of many being sold after a while by their unsatisfied owners.
fired 100 rounds CCI 40 Grain Standard with no problem
Did you read your manual? Most semi-auto .22s don't like stingers to much. They tend to beat them up and wear them prematurely. High Velocity is the most you should shoot. I'm sure others will say how they have shooting them for years but many manuals say don't shoot hyper veloicity. They also aren't typically as accurate.
"He only earns his freedom and his life Who takes them every day by storm."
-- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German writer and politician
Did you read your manual? Most semi-auto .22s don't like stingers to much. They tend to beat them up and wear them prematurely. High Velocity is the most you should shoot. I'm sure others will say how they have shooting them for years but many manuals say don't shoot hyper veloicity. They also aren't typically as accurate.
This is all it says , Non Standard implies no High Velocity?
Nah, they all say that, they don't want you to use reloads and if you do, they ain't liable. I still wouldn't shoot to many stingers. They are actually slightly longer than most .22LR and some semi's won't even shoot them. They are really meant for bolt guns, killing rodents and stuff. I think the extra length gets them closer to the lands of the rifling, increasing accuracy. Some one tell me if I'm wrong.
I've seen nylon buffers in Marlin rifles after they have been shooting stingers and it destroys them. 10/22s have a steel buffer so it beats up the bolt and the buffer.
"He only earns his freedom and his life Who takes them every day by storm."
-- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German writer and politician
Nah, they all say that, they don't want you to use reloads and if you do, they ain't liable. I still wouldn't shoot to many stingers. They are actually slightly longer than most .22LR and some semi's won't even shoot them. They are really meant for bolt guns, killing rodents and stuff. I think the extra length gets them closer to the lands of the rifling, increasing accuracy. Some one tell me if I'm wrong.
I've seen nylon buffers in Marlin rifles after they have been shooting stingers and it destroys them. 10/22s have a steel buffer so it beats up the bolt and the buffer.
Bought a 325 Rd box of Federal Auto Match at Cabelas today and while there checked out a Browning 22 and Walther P22. Both were very solid ,clicked when pulled the slide and ejected a metal magazine. The small Walther PPK seemed to a nice pistol, Sig is good pistol but liked the others better
Wish you would not have told me cabellas has automatch, now I'll be headed there for lunch tomorrow and I really don't need any, think I have about 6 or 7 boxes of it. It's expensive having that place so less than a mile from work. $22.00?
"He only earns his freedom and his life Who takes them every day by storm."
-- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German writer and politician
Wish you would not have told me cabellas has automatch, now I'll be headed there for lunch tomorrow and I really don't need any, think I have about 6 or 7 boxes of it. It's expensive having that place so less than a mile from work. $22.00?
This is all it says , Non Standard implies no High Velocity?
To me, implies no ammo other than SAAMI-spec commercial ammunition; in plain words, avoid using homemade reloads, airgun pellets pushed by nailgun "blanks" or such, etc.
$7.39 fer #50, $68.99 fer #500 Midway has them in stock. No thanks.
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Plastic is the new normal.
1) lighter
2) cheaper to make
3) never rusts
4) can be formed into virtually any shape.
For better or worse Glock changed the world.
The technological progression seems to have gone something like this:
1. Build the product to last.
2. Build the product to outlast the original purchaser.
3. Build the product to outlast the current budget cycle.
4. Build the product to outlast the warranty. Which determines which? Let your own cynicism decide.
There's a reason I like pre-WWII-era stuff, or stuff made by pre-WWII-era people.
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
Yep. I certainly wouldn't worry about it if the gun fit my needs. The P250 seems to be well regarded for a striker fired polymer.
Go order a cake at the Publix bakery and they give you a plastic knife, actually works good :tooth: :roll2:
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
Still amazes me this is a real Firearm, I went straight to the Range after buying and used it for NRA class.
There was globs of white grease inside and Magazines were sticking, cleaned everything and all slides well.
Here ya go ...
http://www.amazon.com/Polyresin-Non-Metallic-CIA-Letter-Defense/dp/B00DSYTYGQ/ref=pd_sim_sbs_200_5?ie=UTF8&dpID=31QS9uhEMxL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=1E48357VRSPWZM3ZHJNB
- George Orwell
Indeed; for my daughters, plastic guns and maybe a lot of other traditionally metal-made mass-produced products will be the rule. Probably us playing with plastic toys (Gun replicas or such among them) that hardly lasted in the hands of a young boy and his rough handling has a lot to do with our (justified) mistrust of this material, no matter how much it has specialized and developed in the last 40 years.
Nice pistol; ammo used? ran correctly with other brands/types? This is usually a common issue with many .22 pistols, and as long as I recall, Sig Mosquitos that were imported here had a lot of ammo/reliability issues to the point of many being sold after a while by their unsatisfied owners.
-- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German writer and politician
I've seen nylon buffers in Marlin rifles after they have been shooting stingers and it destroys them. 10/22s have a steel buffer so it beats up the bolt and the buffer.
-- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German writer and politician
-- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German writer and politician
To me, implies no ammo other than SAAMI-spec commercial ammunition; in plain words, avoid using homemade reloads, airgun pellets pushed by nailgun "blanks" or such, etc.
Same. It's like they traded up in velocity in exchange for ability to hit the broad side of a barn.
$7.39 fer #50, $68.99 fer #500 Midway has them in stock. No thanks.
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!