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bisleybisley Senior MemberPosts: 10,813 Senior Member
I have finally closed the deal for a hunting lease, after two years of not being able to find anything decent that I could afford. For you non-Texans, it's a pretty big deal to find a place close to home for affordable rates. There is very little public land in Texas, compared to the number of hunters, so prime leases typically go for a lot more money than the average guy wants to spend, and are still hard to find. City folks will pay big bucks for a good place, so the locals have trouble getting anything good for reasonable prices. Landowners have wised up in recent years and make their poor land pay for itself with hunting fees. I don't blame them for it - it just hasn't done me any good, till now.

This place I have secured is only 200 acres, but is brushy enough to handle 6 hunting blinds, easily. It has no water or cultivation, but deer travel through it and bed down on it, so feeders will likely draw some spikes and does. Where they are, the bigger bucks will follow, when the rut starts, especially if there are a few acorns to eat. It also has feral hogs, occasionally, plus coyotes and bobcats. It's nothing to compare with the river bottom locales I have enjoyed in the past, but it gives me a chance to hunt with the grand kids, who will be plenty excited about it, and that's what I've been trying to get.

Best of all, it's 30 minutes away, or less, for me, and only ten minutes from where my grandsons live. I will have the keys in the mail tomorrow (or so), so we can start scouting it this weekend and maybe get our feeders and blinds up during the next 2-3 weekends. Yippee!

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  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 14,371 Senior Member
    Hope Grandpa has a sore back from dragging all the grandkids deer this year:applause:
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    Congrats~! I won't know until into September for sure whether I have a lease. That's the way it is for me every year. Depends on the landowner. But he's been leasing it for 50 years so more than likely we'll have it.

    Your place is small but with good management it can be productive. You gotta be quiet, something that can be hard with kids involved. But feed hell out of it. Try some of that Deer Caine or other attractants. You'd be surprised how many deer you can sucker in. Are there coons around there? If so, get you a bottle of **** piss scent mask. That's what I use and deer will walk right past you. May not be the ones you want to shoot but in rut who knows? Our place is 860 acres total but my part is only about 200 acres. So we're in the same boat basically. Except we do have water. If you can put a small water tank on it and haul water to it, that may bring in some good deer. Around your part of the country, I'd bet the water table is not too far down. You might ask the land owner if you can put in a small pump and tank. You'd probably hit water at 15-20 feet. You can drill that by hand.
    Just a thought.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,813 Senior Member
    CHIRO1989 wrote: »
    Hope Grandpa has a sore back from dragging all the grandkids deer this year:applause:

    I've got two grandsons who have been pushing a blocking sled around all summer with a football coach on it, so they can drag their own, this time, and dress them out, too.
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,813 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    Your place is small but with good management it can be productive.

    This place has been hunted for years, but never managed. We will be the first hunters on it who will actually follow the rules, so it may not yield much this year. But if we can hold on to it, it will improve, if the knuckleheads adjoining it will let the young bucks live long enough to get legal. It will be a regular sanctuary, under our control, if we can keep the poachers out. We will concentrate on culls this year, unless a big boy screws up and gets too close to a feeder.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,681 Senior Member
    Good for you.

    Without a lease, I am subject to the desires of ranchers and how many deer they need culled that year.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,813 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    Good for you.

    Without a lease, I am subject to the desires of ranchers and how many deer they need culled that year.

    I used to have some 'contacts' like that, but they all died off. Their kids always have different ideas.

    At least with your own lease you can lure the youngsters to a feeder and hope the good bucks will sneak around in the shadows and get too close.
  • Jeff in TXJeff in TX Senior Member Posts: 2,469 Senior Member
    Congrats is up near Greenville? If you've got some open areas, get yourself some turnip seeds and spread them around. A pound or two goes a long way, a very long way. They'll start coming up after a good rain and will provide your deer with some good eats. It's simple, easy and cheap and could go a long way with the deer?

    Best of luck and congrats on the lease!
    Distance is not an issue, but the wind can make it interesting!

    John 3: 1-21
  • WeatherbyWeatherby Senior Member Posts: 4,953 Senior Member
    I'm very happy for you and the grandkids.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    bisley wrote: »
    This place has been hunted for years, but never managed. We will be the first hunters on it who will actually follow the rules, so it may not yield much this year. But if we can hold on to it, it will improve, if the knuckleheads adjoining it will let the young bucks live long enough to get legal. It will be a regular sanctuary, under our control, if we can keep the poachers out. We will concentrate on culls this year, unless a big boy screws up and gets too close to a feeder.

    Good plan, just concentrate on some good meat for awhile. The kids won't mind. They'll be happy to get a deer period.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    Jeff in TX wrote: »
    Congrats is up near Greenville? If you've got some open areas, get yourself some turnip seeds and spread them around. A pound or two goes a long way, a very long way. They'll start coming up after a good rain and will provide your deer with some good eats. It's simple, easy and cheap and could go a long way with the deer?

    Best of luck and congrats on the lease!

    Good idea Jeff. I think I'll get some turnip seeds too. Fence in about a 30'x30' plot. Plant turnips and peas. Deer love peas too.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • Six-GunSix-Gun Senior Member Posts: 8,155 Senior Member
    200 acres with that many people sounds just fine. Hell, I took a couple a deer out of a place last year that was only 11 acres, and that was with letting at least 30 within range over a couple of months walk! I expect good things from this new place you secured.
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member Posts: 8,367 Senior Member
    Excellent news Bisley. All Grampa's should have a place where they can take their grandkids hunting.............its in the job description.

    Look forward to seeing the progress as you develop the property. Don't forget to take 'before' pics if you plan on carrying out any improvements. Also looking forward to seeing some game cam pics of the local wildlife.
    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,813 Senior Member
    Jeff in TX wrote: »
    Congrats is up near Greenville?

    About 50 miles south and a little east, about halfway between Mineola and Hawkins. I may try the turnips - never tried them before.
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,813 Senior Member
    orchidman wrote: »
    Excellent news Bisley. All Grampa's should have a place where they can take their grandkids hunting.............its in the job description.

    Look forward to seeing the progress as you develop the property. Don't forget to take 'before' pics if you plan on carrying out any improvements. Also looking forward to seeing some game cam pics of the local wildlife.

    The only 'development' will be in letting the young bucks with nice racks live and shooting the culls. I can mow a little and put up blinds and feeders, but otherwise I'll leave it alone. It is 1/2 hardwoods and 1/2 managed pines.

    I bought a cheap game camera so hopefully I'll be getting some photos.
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 25,160 Senior Member
  • sakodudesakodude Senior Member Posts: 4,603 Senior Member
    Congrats, hope it works out for you and your grand kids. getting to be that way around here as well. Haven't had to pay yet but unless you know a landowner you just about out of luck.

    Sako
  • shootbrownelkshootbrownelk Senior Member Posts: 2,035 Senior Member
    bisley wrote: »
    I used to have some 'contacts' like that, but they all died off. Their kids always have different ideas.

    At least with your own lease you can lure the youngsters to a feeder and hope the good bucks will sneak around in the shadows and get too close.

    I hear you Bisley, I used to have the run of 3 ranches for helping out at Branding time or fence/gate repairs. The old timers all passed away and our agreement went with them. The kids now charge big bucks for a trespass fee, or they lease it to an outfitter. Now, it's BLM or National Forest for me.
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,813 Senior Member
    My BIL had hunting rights on this 200 acres for 40 years. He fenced it for hunting rights, a handshake deal with the owner, in which he maintained the boundary fence. The old man died, 20 years ago, and his wife made the kids honor the deal. Now, she has Alzheimer, and the son has upped the pressure on my BIL, so he let it go, because he was tired of maintaining the fence, and had another, better place. I contacted the son and negotiated a flat rate fee and a written agreement, plus a verbal promise to have the option to renew each year. Of course, he has the option to up the price, but I got pretty low for this year. If it is good, I can pay a little more, if necessary, by collecting more from the SILs.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    bisley wrote: »
    My BIL had hunting rights on this 200 acres for 40 years. He fenced it for hunting rights, a handshake deal with the owner, in which he maintained the boundary fence. The old man died, 20 years ago, and his wife made the kids honor the deal. Now, she has Alzheimer, and the son has upped the pressure on my BIL, so he let it go, because he was tired of maintaining the fence, and had another, better place. I contacted the son and negotiated a flat rate fee and a written agreement, plus a verbal promise to have the option to renew each year. Of course, he has the option to up the price, but I got pretty low for this year. If it is good, I can pay a little more, if necessary, by collecting more from the SILs.

    Whatever, I hope you all get some deer. Those pesky animals need shooting! And if one has a rocking chair growing out his head, then all the better.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • jaywaptijaywapti Senior Member Posts: 5,051 Senior Member
    Great that ya got a lease, hope ya fill your tags.

    Working on a lease is nothing new, when I moved to Texas in 80 my buddy's got me on a waterfowl/deer/hog/ fishing lease in Anahauc and Katy , the place's were huge, the man that owned it farmed rice, cattle, and crawdads, the deal was we had to help when he needed us, we spent a lot of time down there, if I remember right he only charged us $200.00 each a year which was cheap even back than.

    When he drained the fields we would place nets across the outflows to get the crawfish and we could keep 2 5gal buckets each.

    JAY
    THE DEFINITION OF GUN CONTROL IS HITTING THE TARGET WITH YOUR FIRST SHOT
  • bobbyrlf3bobbyrlf3 Senior Member Posts: 2,591 Senior Member
    Congratulations, and happy times for all!
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  • Johnny rebJohnny reb Member Posts: 715 Senior Member
    Is there any decent deer huntingbon Sam Houston national Forest? I have **** hinted it but not deer hunted
  • jaywaptijaywapti Senior Member Posts: 5,051 Senior Member
    Yes, when I lived in Conroe in the 80s I hunted there, got a buck nothing special and a couple of does, back then there were a lot of hunters, Its probably worse now.

    JAY
    THE DEFINITION OF GUN CONTROL IS HITTING THE TARGET WITH YOUR FIRST SHOT
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